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George Gregan (70)
You seem excited by the possible demise of professional rugby in Australia.
Australian Rugby / RA
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John Thornett (49)
What makes you think RA if they lose any legal decisions, are forced into giving Folau a lump sum payment? How and why would Folau be impacted if he wasn’t paid his usual fortnight may salary? More importantly, if Folau secures a contract overseas, why wouldn’t RA simply turn around and say they aren’t required to pay his full salary only the difference (if there is one) between what he would have been paid by RA and what he is then paid.
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
No point sticking you head in the sand, neither God nor moral superiority will provide a solution to bankruptcy.
However it would see the end of incompetent Directors and a Andrew Forrest / Alan Jones axis of power over Australian Rugby, make of that what you will.
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David Codey (61)
They have always been dependent on RA to survive.
As I said previously, the Tahs will only be liable for their part of Izzies wage, as they always were.
The only change might be the timing.
RA is liable for any damages if there are any.
GRob just posted a good article saying.
Damages of $5M is an ambit claim, there’s no chance he’d be attracting top dollar fro sponsors in his final years,and in any event most of his sponsors dumped him before RA sacked him,so he can’t claim that.
Further, he has to mitigate his loss so if a French club is willing to pay him 1/2 his current salary, the RA would only be liable for the shortfall.
RA also has a policy, believed to provide cover of up to $2M.
Sounds like Izzy is risking a lot more than RA in proceeding with this.
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
Also too under these insurance policies the insurer takes over and runs the case with their panel lawyers. They may not be as interested in the moral stance of Rugby Australia, but the dollar value outcome. So maybe a negotiated settlement or even a reinstatement is a possibility all be it remote if Rugby Australia hands this over to their insurer. In these situations I believe the insurer runs case at its absolute discretion and Folau is not necessarily interested in a financial settlement, but his principle of religious freedom.
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David Codey (61)
Pretty sure Izzy has knocked back good cash from the ticket clippers at RA.
God made him do or something,so he can’t undo it.
God made him do or something,so he can’t undo it.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
Raelene Castle and Cameron Clyne are as good as done in their roles, they might see out the World Cup, doubt they will make it to Christmas.
So the fight for the CEO's role is down to Kafer & Kearns. Kearns has been pretty low key on Folau, however Kafer well and truely showed his colours last night.
Given the forces that will come into play and it will hopefully be the mother of all clean outs in Rugby Administration, Kearns has the CEO gig.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
I think that if nothing else this case might decide to what extent employers are entitled to regulate the behaviour of their employees away from the workplace where the employee hasn’t indicated that they are either representing or speaking for their employer.
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Trevor Allan (34)
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Kafer has little record of success at anything. Seems to have had many consultant roles though
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David Wilson (68)
QH I have a lot of sympathy for the view that the employer should not get involved with the employee's life away from work. I haven't seen the post by Folau or any other related material save what has been discussed on this site, but I understand from early posts that Folau was pictured in his Wallabies jersey in his infamous post.
Is that correct? If so, wouldn't it be fair to say that he was in some way representing himself as an employee of RA when he made the post? If not, then a different story.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
I don’t think he was in any Wallabies or Waratahs gear at all. In fact I don’t think his picture was in the post at all. I’m sure that RA and the NSWRU would have rightly had plenty to say about it if he did.
From what I’ve seen the post was a meme accompanied by a short message to repent.
I think the bigger issue, after the "shutting it all down" is that the revenue stream is going downhill at the same rate as the credibility stream. TV deals - going down; crowds - down at all pro levels; sponsorships - only do so much. So, once we wind it up, appoint another room of monkeys, and design a new jersey sponsored by Clive Palmer, we can happily return to the halcyon days of amateur rugby when all was jolly and good. Except, if we end up with Kearns or Kafer, in which case it will be neither.
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Mark Ella (57)
Welcome back
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Ken Catchpole (46)
The current Board of RA - Cameron Clyne, Chairman. Dr Brett Robinson, Deputy Chairman. Raelene Castle, Chief Executive. Pip Marlow, Director. Paul McLean MBE, Director. Hayden Rorke, Director. Ann Sherry, Director. Philip Waugh, Director. John Wilson, Director. Tony Shaw, President.
Formerflanker's ticket for the Board after the coming Rugby Revolution:
Sir Peter Cosgrove, Chairman; responsible for strategic planning.
Tony Abbott, Chief Executive and strategic plan implementation specialist.
Alan Jones, Director and media advisor.
Simon Poidevin, Director responsible for developing grassroots rugby.
Nick Farr-Jones, Director responsible for elite rugby.
David Campese, Director responsible for creative thinking.
A winning combination!
Formerflanker's ticket for the Board after the coming Rugby Revolution:
Sir Peter Cosgrove, Chairman; responsible for strategic planning.
Tony Abbott, Chief Executive and strategic plan implementation specialist.
Alan Jones, Director and media advisor.
Simon Poidevin, Director responsible for developing grassroots rugby.
Nick Farr-Jones, Director responsible for elite rugby.
David Campese, Director responsible for creative thinking.
A winning combination!