Bledisloe 2 at Eden Park 18/10/20

[qwerty51]

Also why the fuck did we turn down 2 kickable penalties when the margin was no bigger than 8.

This is Test rugby ffs

 

[Uh huh]

How do we not dominate in the lineouts? 3 good jumpers against their 1? We were positioned in front of their jumpers multiple times and didn't even get in the air.

Hmm... it's almost as if there was more to the lineout issues than can be solved by booting the hooker.

 

[PhilClinton]

They probably have more important things to worry about then trying to allow in a player we don't need...

As long as there are no more Brumbies added to the side we should improve

 

[Warpath]

Also why the fuck did we turn down 2 kickable penalties when the margin was no bigger than 8.

This is Test rugby ffs

cause they didn't have a decent kicker on, Rennie made ONE big mistakes (he made many in naming the team but one big one) and that was not to start Hodges at 13...had Hodges been there, the wallabies could have kicked their way into contention in the fist half

 

[qwerty51]

JOC (James O'Connor) is a fine kicker, last week was fucked with wind. He nailed the sideline conversion down the middle. What you talking about.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

if possible, Kerevi at 12, paisami was hopeless, if not, TK back to 13, To'omua is the only defender in the oz backs it seems, can't just depend on him, personally wanna see a better lock, a rodda? and a stronger 8, Wilson to 6.

My view whilst we rebuild is we allow the 2 extra players playing outside oz every year whilst ABs select only domestic based players. An even contest is what everyone wants and we don’t have depth of nz so let’s be more creative.

 

[Slim 293]

As long as there are no more Brumbies added to the side we should improve

Seems to be working.........

 

[Dctarget]

Hmm. it's almost as if there was more to the lineout issues than can be solved by booting the hooker.

Haha that's exactly what we did this week. Booted the hooker and our lineout was dandy.

 

[Highkicks]

Hmm. it's almost as if there was more to the lineout issues than can be solved by booting the hooker.

I was referring to us not winning any of theirs, which has nothing to do with the hooker.

 

[Teh Other Dave]

Also why the fuck did we turn down 2 kickable penalties when the margin was no bigger than 8.

This is Test rugby ffs

That pretty much sums it up. I think this is a good side with a good coach, but they just need to out their footy heads on. Speccy passes and going for the tap 10m out are for the front foot, not when two scoring plays from the lead.

 

[eastman]

I think this game really showed the gulf in class between the outside backs between the two teams, with the two forward packs being close to equal (at least with the starting pack, there was a noticeable drop in class when Simmons and Wright came on).

Despite Koribete's work rate and outstanding rig, nothing about rugby seems natural to him especially the fundamentals of passing and catching. He's been pretty consistent for us but with the availability of Dauguni as a strike-winger, I think it's time to see what Wright can do.

If To'omua is unavailable next week, I think Simone should come into the 12 position, as he's the most like for like replacement. While you might lose some defensive starch, he has more upside in attack. The calls to bring back Kerevi seem premature as ball-playing ability and creativity is what we lacked when To'omua went off- not strong ball running.

I'd be willing to persist with Banks unless DHP is back to full fitness, I'm not convinced Hodge would have done any better.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Not getting the hate for wright. I thought he did ok.
Wouldn’t argue if samu came back but I don’t think 6,7,8 is what lost that for us today.

Fair call - he does not deserve hate - he did not lose the game but more what he showed today opened the door for Samu...not to say he could be retained and play a blinder next game but not competitive and many thought Samu unlucky to drop out of 23

 

[Joe Blow]

I don’t think Korobiete’s handling had much to do with the game situation.

Most of the poor handling wasn’t from unexpected or poor passes I thought.

He looked up both times. He can fix that pretty easily.

 

[Hammeroid]

Needed to score when we're denied twice mid way through the second half. Could have been 20-14. Oh well. Good effort.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Watched the game at the pub just down the road & haven't seen much on here since my post re: PU-J earlier so apalogies if it's already been mentioned but key moments for me were BPA getting pinged for using his knees to get himself within reach of the line & Mo'unga getting under Koroibete. Had either been a try it's a whole different ballgame. But they weren't hence the margin, some Wobs seemed to drop their heads on each occasion. Also, barring injury Clarke owns the 11 jersey until he turns the dreaded 27.

 

[Derpus]

Couple of new players wont fix that performance. Across the board bad decisions were made, terrible hands on a dry track, shocking ruck work.

Its kind of amazing to say it but the only positive out of of that was Hanigan.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

As Fatprop says hes a hole runner, he cant beat a man liKe DHP.

I was not on the banks bandwagon after first game - I don’t think he was that bad today but DHP to me offers more and comes in if fit

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Are we really singling out individuals missing tackles in that one? Clarke broke at least 10 on his own. Pretty sure Barret beat the entire team in one run and had started doubling back around for seconds before he tripped over himself.

Yeh that was embarrassing

 

[Derpus]

Watched the game at the pub just down the road & haven't seen much on here since my post re: PU-J earlier so apalogies if it's already been mentioned but key moments for me were BPA getting pinged for using his knees to get himself within reach of the line & Mo'unga getting under Koroibete. Had either been a try it's a whole different ballgame. But they weren't hence the margin, some Wobs seemed to drop their heads on each occasion. Also, barring injury Clarke owns the 11 jersey until he turns the dreaded 27.

To'omua going off for me was the key moment.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

I am just grateful they did not start Caleb Clarke for the first game