2011 Spring Tour
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Chilla Wilson (44)
This might be contentious
1. Barnes
2. JOC (James O'Connor)
3. Giteau
4. Harris
5. Tapuai
6. McCabe
7. Fainga
8. Lealiifano
28. Chariots
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Horne shouldn't be considered. He should always play 13, he's just so damn good at it.
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Greg Davis (50)
Really? Chariots outplays every 12 on that list week in week out. The old boys club in this country is amazing, don't pick the in form centre of super rugby at any cost, bullshit.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
I give carter a lot of stick but I love nothing more than watching him score a try. That hatrick he picked up last season was brilliant. I would actually rank him 9th but I like ball players first and physical dominance second. However, if you were to pick on consistency than tommy would have to be #1. Plus you've got to love his record of 500 points for Uni (100 tries, no penaltys, no conversions, no drop goals) but it show's you his versatility isn't great.
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David Codey (61)
Yep he is so much better than JOC (James O'Connor) it is ridiculous.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
Must be hard to type with the keyboard covered in all the drool over Tapuai.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Ball playing ability maybe, but TC wins hands down on defence, kick-chase and physical dominance.
I had a chat with Lachie Turner recently, he says that Tom is one of the nicest guys in the team.
Lachie said that during one of the Tahs games, someone was ripping into Tom Kingston, so Tommy Carter puts some niggle in so that the opposition will focus on him instead of some younger guys, cause Tommy can take it and some others can't.
Lachie Turner said:
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John Solomon (38)
I'm going to link this again because a) I'm amazed how shit it is
b) Tapuai is devaluing himself by having it out there
c) If I were in the ARU and his management approached me with that video I'd laugh them out of the room.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_LMwczw_dQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
b) Tapuai is devaluing himself by having it out there
c) If I were in the ARU and his management approached me with that video I'd laugh them out of the room.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_LMwczw_dQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Train Without a Station
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Probably just should have kept it to the last try against the Blues in the Semi Final, for maximum effect.
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Mark Ella (57)
If Deans (assuming the "independant" review finds as expected he is in fact the greatest coach to walk the earth and the players are too young/inexperienced/didn't listen or decipher the Dingo wisdom/injured) is going to continue with the ridiculous defence oriented game Carter is probably the best player in Oz for it. Far better than McAbe IMO. Nobody has better tackle completion rates from 12 in Super Rugby, he is dominant in many tackles, actually chases kicks etc etc. I am far from an avid fan as I have always felt he is a limiting factor in the Tahs backline plays. However if the coach has a defence based game I doubt there are any better in Oz.
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John Hipwell (52)
I kept waiting for the highlights.....lol
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
If you pick carter then you won't need to pick an outside or any wingers.....at least in attack
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Referees for the tour
26 November 2011
Barbarians vs Australia at Twickenham
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: Andrew Small (England), Stuart Terheege (England)
Television match official: Graham Hughes (England)
3 December 2011
Wales vs Australia at Millennium Stadium
Referee: Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Dave Pearson (England), Jérôme Garces (France)
Television match official: Geoff Warren (England)
26 November 2011
Barbarians vs Australia at Twickenham
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: Andrew Small (England), Stuart Terheege (England)
Television match official: Graham Hughes (England)
3 December 2011
Wales vs Australia at Millennium Stadium
Referee: Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Dave Pearson (England), Jérôme Garces (France)
Television match official: Geoff Warren (England)
and that is different from how the Wallabies played the RWC & Tri Nations with McCabe how?
On Carter, he ain't up to test rugby, wonderful competitor (actually a prime example of a player who plays above his weight), but if McCabe can be dominated at the tackle by smart defenses in test matches, Carter is toast.
Carter is also an incredibly effective defender(probably the best defensive backline decision maker in the S15, his decisions to drift or rush are nearly always the correct ones), but he ain't not a dominant defender and that is what the Wobs were looking for.
If the Wobs are going to pick a crash ball at 12, they wanted him to also make dominant hits - to get Aus on the front foot, give Pocock the opportunity, so cooper can try to find defensive miss matches on counter. On attack Carter has been known to get turned over at S15 level as well, let alone test match rugby.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Fat prop I kind of agree with you but somewhere along the line Carter should have been give a chance to fail at test level because you just never know.
He did throw a pass last season after kafe got into him on the rugby club, and a deft pass it was too
Maybe he's coachable
He did throw a pass last season after kafe got into him on the rugby club, and a deft pass it was too
Maybe he's coachable
Coachable? Carter and McCabe play a role in the team, both are very good footballers, they play as coached
Their roles at 12 is often to straighten the attack, take the tackle and set up that next phase. Then provide quick ball and hopefully provide mismatches out wider
Both have been criticised for that by some on here, but that is the job their coaches have given them.
Their roles at 12 is often to straighten the attack, take the tackle and set up that next phase. Then provide quick ball and hopefully provide mismatches out wider
Both have been criticised for that by some on here, but that is the job their coaches have given them.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
some people are coachable - they can be coached to do a thing contrary to their instincts. some can't. my point was that when someone, kafe, told him what was required he did it. Its not beyond the realms of possibility that that was the first time anyone had suggested something to him.
coaching in this country never seems to be about the little things - the basics.
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