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Totally agree. A couple of seasons ago there were so many Shore victories in any given regatta that spectators did kind of give up.
As did this forum
Totally agree. A couple of seasons ago there were so many Shore victories in any given regatta that spectators did kind of give up.
No New results from Grafton as they were not there, they were at NSW Sprint Championships (some good results for the 16yr olds competing in U19 and club events, some 1sts in sculling and 3rd in Fours crew events, and they also time trialled with the Aust Olympic crews on Nepean..
Seems Shore and Joeys had a gentleman's agreement to split the finals. Joeys to the Schoolboy and Shore to the club final. Agree, seems the Joeys VIII seems to be doing some good times.... What will Jennings do, I wonder?Sorry, my bad - just a brain snap when I meant to write King's.
I would never claim that all of the other schools are ever truly out of the mix, but after the latest results from NZ it would take a serious misfortune to upset Joeys and Shore as the top 2 contenders. 1st eight just did a 5:53 for a win - that's pretty impressive for the first half of the season, hard to see why they would not continue to dominate from this point.
Anyone got the link to the NZ results ?
MR
Seems Shore and Joeys had a gentleman's agreement to split the finals. Joeys to the Schoolboy and Shore to the club final. Agree, seems the Joeys VIII seems to be doing some good times.. What will Jennings do, I wonder?
Not quite sure I agree here, MR. With the exception of Riverview, who are also on a path of economic domination in the GPS, all the most populous Year 12 schools on your table are crap at rugby these days. It seems those with less students must have higher quality athletes and tend to dominate the rugby (and basketball) in recent times.Interesting looking at the school HSC results and the number of students in each year. At the end of the day, more kids = more to choose from = better top sports teams. Numbers are:
1. View 251
2.= SBHS 205
2.= Kings 205
4. Shore 200
5. Joeys 198
6. Grammar 188
7. Newington 178
8. Scots 166
So View have 85 more students that Scots. That's a lot. Strange as a lot of kids in Mosman go to Scots so would have thought they were one of the bigger schools. All the other schools have a similar number so on an even keel when it comes to picking sports teams.
Given the grounds of View & Kings suggest they have more space to grow than the others, particularly Kings. Shore bought Graythwaite recently siphoning funds from Old Boys, incl me, though dont know what they intend to do re numbers.
MR
1. View 251
2.= SBHS 205
2.= Kings 205
4. Shore 200
5. Joeys 198
6. Grammar 188
7. Newington 178
8. Scots 166
In regards to what you said there fpiglet I strongly disagree. Your saying that schools with less students are dominating the rugby yet it's been quite a few years since we've seen grammar have any input into rugby, let alone any sport in the GPS. From your logic of "schools with less students having higher quality athletes" (which is a load of crap) grammar should be up there competing in the top 3 every year. I would also like to bring to your attention that this is a rowing forum so we don't really care about rugby or basketball or any other sports for that matter.Not quite sure I agree here, MR. With the exception of Riverview, who are also on a path of economic domination in the GPS, all the most populous Year 12 schools on your table are crap at rugby these days. It seems those with less students must have higher quality athletes and tend to dominate the rugby (and basketball) in recent times.
The variables at other schools are the selective aspect - seriously, can anyone really argue the case for Grammar being a sporting powerhouse, Saucyboy? That is not their brief. It is academically selective and has two feeder junior schools where the winnowing happens at the end of year 6. Boys have to pass that exam just like a newcomer, they do not proceed automatically to College Street. (which really invites examination of why they do not outstrip James Ruse in HSC results by a long way; after all, not only are they taking the cream of the crop, but much of that crop has been educated and moulded by the Grammar machine since preschool. What exactly are they doing with those boys for 13 years?
This is wrong.
The boys at the prep schools do not sit the entrance exam any more. If it is thought they will not cope with the so-called demands of academic life at the high school they are told soon enough but the fact is that entry in the first place (Transition, 3rd and 5th classes) is selective and so very few boys are considered not to be up to it by the time they get to the end of 5th class. Boys leave to go to other schools in year 7 to take up scholarships (not sporting).
I am told by those in charge of the joint that most (as in all but one or 2) of the boys who go to grammar would not get into the selective high schools. To suggest that it should equal the totally free James Ruse ignores the #1 requirement for attendance: your parents having a lazy $30k to spend on school fees. The #2 requirement is to care more about learning than the lineage of your classmates.
Contrary to popular myth entrance is not based on exam performance: there is an interview. I am told that the interview process has changed more recently and there is some encouragement given for those with sporting interests - but those interests may not be rugby, cricket and rowing: as the other schools are rapidly finding out!
One final error: Grammar is not struggling to fill any place arising in any year. As far as i can see the GFC had no impact on enrolment at the school, though it had an impact on the Board of Trustees.