4th Bledisloe in Tokyo
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George Gregan (70)
Lawrence let them lie on our ball a LOT and come in from the side - the thing is, our blokes weren't smart enough to return the favour. There was one point where we're pressuring their line and Woodcock steps into the tackle area from the side, sticks his hands in the ruck, and yanks it out. At least two infringements there and Lawrence signals play on with a shrug. At least he had the balls to take the TMO out of the equation for Hynes' try.
Its worth pointint out that Lawrence wasn't nearly the issue: the ABs bombed at least two more tries and we were never in the game.
I'm disappointed with Elsom's captaincy. Dead rubber, down by 10. Go for posts??? Fark that shows no confidence in your set piece, not that he had much reason.
We lost both the lineout (heavily) and the scrum (marginally), though Lawrence penalised us once for wheeling when it looked like good scrummaging to me. Once again our ruck work wasn't good enough throughout the game (though brilliant at points) and we just let them dictate terms to us. Throw in our shitty discipline (again Elsom needs to aim up on this) and we can feel lucky we only lost by that margin.
Its worth pointint out that Lawrence wasn't nearly the issue: the ABs bombed at least two more tries and we were never in the game.
I'm disappointed with Elsom's captaincy. Dead rubber, down by 10. Go for posts??? Fark that shows no confidence in your set piece, not that he had much reason.
We lost both the lineout (heavily) and the scrum (marginally), though Lawrence penalised us once for wheeling when it looked like good scrummaging to me. Once again our ruck work wasn't good enough throughout the game (though brilliant at points) and we just let them dictate terms to us. Throw in our shitty discipline (again Elsom needs to aim up on this) and we can feel lucky we only lost by that margin.
Nah not many calling for Lawrence's head NTA although if we'd lost it'd be a bit different... As I said over there, it's not Lawrence's fault the Japs couldn't sort their shit out, and he called it as he saw it. Funnily enough we're all happily criticising the Jaapie twat for that non-try awarding bullshit call, but no-one is asking the real question:
WHERE THE FUCK WAS THE ASS REF IF NOT THERE TO SEE IF IT WAS SCORED?
The useless little fluffyBunny
clearly can't speak English or Japanese, or run a touch line. No place for someone like that near a NZ v Aus Test.
Fist, Skull, Brain.
WHERE THE FUCK WAS THE ASS REF IF NOT THERE TO SEE IF IT WAS SCORED?
The useless little fluffyBunny
clearly can't speak English or Japanese, or run a touch line. No place for someone like that near a NZ v Aus Test. Fist, Skull, Brain.
J
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NTA said:
I wouldn't laugh too hard - have you not seen naza's thread about the AB coaches bribing refs?
Did you notice guys like Horwill and Fat Cat bitching at him quite a bit too? Thought he looked completely dejected after the game and not in "jeez I'm gutted we lost" kind of way. It was more a "fuck my team mates are muppets - what have I gotten myself into?" kind of way.
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Very subjective junior. He was probably dejected because he hates to lose. I don't think anyone honestly believes that the captain makes all the decisions - its about a leadership group at any level of rugby because the experience is what you need. But:
The kick is always the skipper's call. If you're gonna lose, at least do it with a bit of style I say and try to get over the line. Even if you get done because you missed all your kicks, at least give your forwards a chance to maul it over when you get a penalty in the 22.
Noddy said:
The kick is always the skipper's call. If you're gonna lose, at least do it with a bit of style I say and try to get over the line. Even if you get done because you missed all your kicks, at least give your forwards a chance to maul it over when you get a penalty in the 22.
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
It was obviously that we would lose 5 seconds into the seconds half. The All Blacks have come from behind in the second half so many times against the Wallabies recently, and it is because the Wallabies come out flat and the All Blacks come out fired up.
Anyone else notice that the Wallabies were hitting rucks hard and in numbers for the first 30-odd minutes? It was as if they learnt their lesson. Then in the second half it was the same old crap.
Agree that J'OC should've been subbed after the Smith try - I would've brought on Mitchell. J'OC is too young/too small/too inexperienced for this level. Maybe if he was just 1 or 2 out of those 3 he might be OK, but he's not.
Oh, and not surprised by our lineout. It's been pretty poor all year.
Dean Mumm? He's a right idiot. No impact and stupid penalty.
Anyone else notice that the Wallabies were hitting rucks hard and in numbers for the first 30-odd minutes? It was as if they learnt their lesson. Then in the second half it was the same old crap.
Agree that J'OC should've been subbed after the Smith try - I would've brought on Mitchell. J'OC is too young/too small/too inexperienced for this level. Maybe if he was just 1 or 2 out of those 3 he might be OK, but he's not.
Oh, and not surprised by our lineout. It's been pretty poor all year.
Dean Mumm? He's a right idiot. No impact and stupid penalty.
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Deans need to have bought on attacking reserves when the Wallabies really needed a try. Attacking players like Cooper. Really could have kept them into the game. The ruck was constantly disrupted by the AB's cynical infringements and unnoticed infringements by Mark Lawrence. Really should have gone yellow in the first half.
I'm starting to think Robbie isn't bringing on reserves to save them from paying them that huge match fee.
I'm starting to think Robbie isn't bringing on reserves to save them from paying them that huge match fee.
TheRiddler
Dave Cowper (27)
The bench "policy" seemed to be a very strange one. Admittedly it was after a hundred beers that I caught the end of the game but it didnt seem as though the bench had been used in a timely, effective, thoughtful and impactful way.
Thought the tone of the game was set very early on when So'oialo was offside in just about every NZ defensive ruck but got away with it. Then AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) gets pinged for coming in at the side on an Aus offensive ruck. WTF? And, as usual, plenty of occasions when Macaw was not the dominant tackler but comes in as the second tackler to make sure the tackle has been made and then blatantly stands the wrong side of the ruck claiming rights to the ball as the original tackler. Complete BS but amazing skill and deceit to keep on doing it and keep on getting away with it.
On another note, one wonders wow Mssrs Tuquiri and Waugh must be feeling at the moment......
Thought the tone of the game was set very early on when So'oialo was offside in just about every NZ defensive ruck but got away with it. Then AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) gets pinged for coming in at the side on an Aus offensive ruck. WTF? And, as usual, plenty of occasions when Macaw was not the dominant tackler but comes in as the second tackler to make sure the tackle has been made and then blatantly stands the wrong side of the ruck claiming rights to the ball as the original tackler. Complete BS but amazing skill and deceit to keep on doing it and keep on getting away with it.
On another note, one wonders wow Mssrs Tuquiri and Waugh must be feeling at the moment......
cheezel
Bill Watson (15)
We're no longer the intelligent team we were reknowned for. We're predictable and unable to adapt to any change in game plan. What happened to the deans mantra of "play what's infront you"? Is the gameplan they take into each game too specific? Buggers me but it pisses me off losing this much.
Our defense is rubbish and our backs seem rudderless. We are shithouse and all of the northern hemisphere teams will be licking there lips at the thought of belting us.
Our defense is rubbish and our backs seem rudderless. We are shithouse and all of the northern hemisphere teams will be licking there lips at the thought of belting us.
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