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All Blacks vs Kangaroos?

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by waiopehu oldboy, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. liquor box Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Do the unlimited tackles include rucks?

    It could be an ugly game but I would imagine that after 30 phases the Rugby Forwards would be crossing the tryline
  2. wamberal David Codey (61)

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    Nobody has talked about refereeing. It would depend a lot on interpretation, and a league ref would have a totally different frame of reference.
  3. waiopehu oldboy David Wilson (68)

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    I read somewhere that teams would only get a max eight phases so I guess it's not unlimited tackle league but seven kick.
  4. Up the Guts Mark Loane (55)

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    Seems like a ‘hybrid game’ is basically just League.

    Who would people be supporting? I’ll be going for the Kangaroos.
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  5. Merrow Phil Hardcastle (33)

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    AB’s. That’s how much I hate league.
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  6. dru Andrew Slack (58)

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    Easily.
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  7. waiopehu oldboy David Wilson (68)

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    Update from NZR CEO Mark Robinson:

    "We are not actively working on this," Robinson said.

    "It is fair to say the ball is firmly in the court of the NRL at the moment in terms of future consideration of it. They might have got cold feet, we're not sure, but it's quiet at present and that's ok with us - we've obviously got lots of things to work on and are focused on a whole range of projects."
  8. KOB1987 Andrew Slack (58)

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    So here's the spin that the NRL will run when this concept gets canned for the umteenth time:

    Club bosses have urged the NRL to scrap talks over a hybrid game between the Kangaroos and All Blacks. The Australian understands several club chief executives raised their concerns over the proposal at a phone hook-up on Thursday morning, querying why rugby league would want to give a helping hand to a rival code.
    Promoter Dean Lonergan is the brains behind the current proposal, which has the support of New Zealand Rugby. The game is now in the hands of the NRL and ARL Commission, who are seriously contemplating the game given it would result in a financial windfall for the code.
    However, if it is to go ahead, it will do so against the wishes of the vast majority of clubs. It is understood they raised major concerns over the proposal during a conversation with NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo.

    Clubs have asked what is in it for the code and them. They want to know why rugby league would want to help rugby union at a time when their bitter rivals appear to be on their knees.
    They have questioned why they should put their elite players at risk for a game that doesn’t benefit them. It is understood Abdo confirmed recent talks had taken place but told the club bosses that the game was unlikely to go ahead.
    “Clubs don’t want it to happen,” one chief executive told The Australian. “What’s in it for the clubs? Overall, what is in it for the game. I wouldn’t even say the support among clubs was lukewarm. If rugby union is struggling, is it really in our best interests to be giving them a leg-up?”
  9. qwerty51 Jason Little (69)

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    Someone tell them the Wallabies aren’t involved.
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  10. Rugbynutter39 Tony Shaw (54)

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    Good to see our NZRU thinking about regional rugby interests - wtf are we offering NZRU a pool to run for 2027 Rugby World Cup.
  11. dru Andrew Slack (58)

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    Beats me.
  12. WorkingClassRugger Andrew Slack (58)

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    We shouldn't be. Why should we bolster their coffers from what has become a highly lucrative event for the hosts when they sure as shit wouldn't return the favour.
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  13. Rebels3 Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    I doubt this will go ahead, for everything to gain there is everything to lose. The game would be played towards league rules which would mean the ABs would get spanked on the park and damage their brand, especially towards the casual viewer that wouldn’t understand the differences between the two games. Likewise no league team is going to be able to play towards a union version of the game.
  14. sendit Allen Oxlade (6)

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    i genuinely believe the All Blacks would smoke the Kangaroos in a hybrid game geared more towards League, i'd almost go as far to say they could beat them in a straight League game.....almost
  15. Rebels3 Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    You better put down what you are smoking. Both teams would comfortably win their own games, I’d be surprised if either team stayed within 30 points of the other. As for a hybrid it has to be geared towards league and I think you’re seriously underestimating the talent in the NRL, they are the equivalent of the ABs for athleticism, toughness and skills. The lack of rugby specific elements in a hybrid like lineout a and scrums would render half the skill set of the ABs useless. As much as many rugby fans don’t like to admit it, but if we had access to the talent in the NRL and they had a background in rugby over a number of years we would be incredibly difficult to beat at an international level.
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  16. qwerty51 Jason Little (69)

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    You're an idiot if you think the All Blacks would get within 50 of the Kangaroos playing purely league.

    Anyway, absolutely laughable some in the NRL media claiming this match would be giving rugby a lift up and not the other way around. One's an international brand - the other is not.

    I still think my suggestion that includes the Wallabies and Kiwis is much better.
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  17. sendit Allen Oxlade (6)

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    Thank you for those kind words :)
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  18. sendit Allen Oxlade (6)

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    The last part was a bit of tongue in cheek, seems it may have missed the mark with a few of the more highly strung posters

    I’d agree with the athletism and toughness aspect but bar the top whatever % of league players, the average NRL player skill level is pretty woeful, especially within the forwards, they’re essentially battering rams and footballing brains are at a minimal
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  19. Up the Guts Mark Loane (55)

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    Yep, I don’t want to send this too far into a League vs Union debate but at every NRL club there a more than a couple of players who who could switch to Union and make a Super side within a year.

    And agree, I think we’d be pretty close to untouchable with all the talent playing League.
  20. wamberal David Codey (61)

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    Look, mate, I can assure that anybody who actually knows anything about the game knows that our game would be a lot stronger if league did not exist. It is patently obvious that most, if not all, league player would be able to play rugby - the games have some big differences, they also have an awful lot in common. It follows that every NRL player would be able to get a gig at some level of our game.


    If they were so different, why did league routinely poach so many of our better players for so many years before our game went professional? Conversely, why do league clubs give some of their best kids scholarships to rugby playing schools?

    Any "rugby fan" who "doesn't like to admit it" is either deluded or a figment of your imagination. Or just a snob.

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