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George Gregan (70)
I was wondering this. Is it perception or are people really starting to drop quickly.
Australia v England: Match III, SCG, Sat 16th July 7.55pm AEST
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Agreed, I expect Tate to come onto the bench.
Other changes I would have is Slipper to start with Tupou. Bell on the bench with AAA.
Frost and Phillip in the row. Wilson 6 with Hooper and Valetini. Leota (reserve 2nd rower) and Samu off the pine.
Backline to remain the same except for Hodge coming in at fullback for Petaia. Ikitau and Vunivalu in 22 and 23.
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John Thornett (49)
Isn't Len injured?
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Bill Watson (15)
On the way home the four in hand is pretty good as is the centennial. If you get lost on the way home try the east sydney.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
Studies are being run in a few other sports (NBA for example) around increased injury rates. They seem to support the idea that modern athletes are getting injured more often and are looking at ways to mitigate that, for example shortening the number of games played in a season (NBA play 82 regular season games) or changing the format to have a mid-season tournament which also becomes a longer break for some players.
I don't know the science behind it, but part of the reason in rugby would also be players missing games to concussion protocols, that wasn't really around a few years ago and adds to the 'injury' counter.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Not if its managed properly.
Marce
John Thornett (49)
The Irish tour is OK in terms of injuries. Isn't it?
Marce
John Thornett (49)
I'd pick Leota as lock, Willson at 6/8 and Vunivalu at the wing
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Volume is volume, you can't tell me players aren't doing more strenuous exercise whether it's gym, field training or games than in previous years.
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Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Not really, Ringrose, Byrne and O’Mahony to miss the 3rd test.
Johnny Sexton went off injures in the 2nd test and battling to be fit for the 3rd
Marce
John Thornett (49)
This is what I said. Add Leota as lock to prove Wilson in the backrow. I'm not sure if I'd pick Leota as a starter lock or on the bench.
Could be something like this:
4 Philip
5 Frost
6 Valetini/Wilson
7 Hooper
8 Wilson/Valetini
19 Leota
Second option:
4 Leota
5 Philip
6 Valetini/Wilson
7 Hooper
8 Wilson/Valetini
19 Frost
Marce
John Thornett (49)
4 players is a common number for this kind of tours. We are talking about disasters like the Wallabies one
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
He was expected to be back for this match, so if fit I would expect to start...
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Peter Sullivan (51)
I’d have him straight back in if fit
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Of course players are doing a lot more. In my day we trained twice a week, no gym work. The keener of us did some running in our own time. The players are valuable assets and professional trainers are supervising their workload. You are welcome to your opinion, but I think I will wait to hear what the experts say. If anything.
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Peter Johnson (47)
ask and you shall receive https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31755824/
Edit: two more https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33046453/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28525884/
In sum, the jury's out a bit still as the data isn't great, but it looks like incidence is remaining pretty stable, but severity is increasing. By nature, more training/game time = greater likelihood of injury
molman
Peter Johnson (47)
Doesn't this align with the protocols world rugby released around the number of hours of contact training? or was that solely predicated on concerns around concussion?
The paper while interesting points to a need for more analysis. I'd be curious if there is variance between this English data and Australia where we've typically had harder, faster tracks than up north.
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