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Australian Rugby / RA

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Dave Beat, May 21, 2013.

  1. wamberal Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Gillon McLachlan on the ABC claiming that the AFL Clubs have a combined total of one million members.
  2. Slim 293 George Gregan (70)

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    Richmond surpassed 100,000 members this year.....

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  3. Bandar Alfred Walker (16)

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    Nothing we didn't already know. AFL is much more popular than Rugby in Australia - I reckon the NRL will also have more members than the Super Rugby teams.
  4. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    Some NRL clubs aren't doing as well as some might think though. Manly have lost members steadily over the past 3 seasons and I don't think they are alone.

    AFL started from a much higher base and the concept that fans could become "members" has been around in Aussie Rules for decades, but only a fairly recent one in league and rugby.

    Edit: The GWS figure is interesting, they have 25,000 members but can barely get 12,000 to a home game.
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  5. stoff Dave Cowper (27)

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    The number of real members is probably closer to half the quoted numbers. People have multiple club memberships, their cars and dogs signed up, etc. The other real difference is that members (at least in the Melbourne clubs) are the shareholders of the teams, instead of what would be more correctly termed season ticket holders in rugby.

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  6. mst Ken Catchpole (46)

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    The GWS figures include the Canberra (region) catchment which is quite strong. The problem is that the games are split between the locations so only part of the membership will travel to attend both.
  7. Rebels3 Desmond Connor (43)

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    Dogs, cats and a few donkeys get signed up to 'memberships' some free others around $10/15 that give no rights to games, mainly drops a name on a mailing list and a few stickers sent out. But it does create a sense of belonging

    AFL is by far the best run game in the country but it is also the best run Mafia in the country. Half of what they say is promotional bs.
  8. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Rugby Australia have already sold out all their corporate boxes and private suites for the Perth Bledisloe test next year.
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  9. joeyjohnz Sydney Middleton (9)

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    Disastrous. Should have set higher prices.
  10. WorkingClassRugger Andrew Slack (58)

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    The AFL's numbers on things like participation and membership are as rubbery as they come. Drove past some AFL posts. You're a participant etc.
  11. barbarian Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    Rugby's popularity is slowly declining in all demographics, except one - rich guys from Perth.

    Man, those guys can't get ENOUGH rugby.
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  12. Rebels3 Desmond Connor (43)

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    I understand the value in long term contracts to venues etc. but this shows the value in moving the Bledisloe fixture around and engaging the audience with the best possible product we have on offer. It's why i am a fan of moving the 7's around so things don't get stale. It just creates a buzz if things are perceived as an event.
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  13. Lindommer Andrew Slack (58)

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    The Oz leg of the 7s has moved from Adelaide Oval (wobbled from so-so to disastrous) to Robina (wobbled from disastrous to disastrous) to the SFS. First coupla years were monumental but this year was only so-so due to the weather being scorching hot. I'd be all ears to hear where else in Australia the 7s might go.
  14. barbarian Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    Melbourne would be perfect for a few years Lindo. Perth would probably be good too. Even Newcastle could give it a shake.
  15. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    It should go to Suncorp for a year, back to Sydney for two years, then Melbourne for a year etc.

    The problem is that optimisation of the bent in terms of not burning out fans is undermined by state tourism organisations paying (i.e. Destination NSW) paying to have it in Sydney.

    All things being equal, RA would maximise interest in the event by only having two out of every three years in Sydney.
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  16. Rebels3 Desmond Connor (43)

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    Yeh the state tourism boards offer upfront cash for multi year deals, thats the catch.

    In a perfect world i'd like to see Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Canberra and repeat. Treated like a travelling roadshow but there is obviously too much money on the line with long term deals etc. so i can see the other side of the argument.

    It'd be a great success for a one off in Melbourne, and i am sure it'd be the same in Perth.

    I would love to see the World Cup 7s come to Australia, it would be massive for the program especially the womens. Once again Perth or Melbourne would be great for this
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  17. barbarian Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    I'm not sure the World Cup holds that much appeal. How is it different to any other round of the World Series?

    If anything, you see less of the teams you like - I think we only played four games as opposed to our usual five/six every tournament.
  18. Rebels3 Desmond Connor (43)

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    It's an event.

    For the casual or non watcher of rugby, the moment you package it with the words 'World Cup' people would become interested. Especially markets like Perth and Melbourne where AFL completely dominates the landscape.

    For the Womens program it would provide an incentive in a now competitive landscape for talent. Sponsors would also get an opportunity to generate some value on something that would provide some coverage for the girls.
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  19. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    ASIC's investigation in the Rebels ownership change is over. No case to answer


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  20. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Once again this morning I'm relieved that Alan Jones has very little to do with Australian rugby

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