Australian Schoolboys & National Championships 2016

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I am struggling to come up with some coaching/selecting rationale for not giving those 3 players some game time. Unless each boy had a hidden injury, all reasonable coaches would send them onto the field.

Only 23 players can be named. The squad is 26 so 3 are not required at all for each match.

I'm not sure if this was the reason Shane referred to last year. Or 3 of the 23 named did not get any game time.

 

[Rugby Mum 2]

I didn't say it was the key, just that everyone has the same opportunity. This thread is about Australian Schoolboys i.e. the actual team chosen to represent not the social justice thread. Try the "Decline in Junior Rugby" thread.

 

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A lot of the boys I know in this program are literally only in school so they're eligible for it.
So, whilst that has its OWN problems, it's not 'rugby limited my schooling' but rather 'rugby kept me at school'.

Codswallop

 

[amirite]

Codswallop

Are you honestly telling me what I know is correct is incorrect? That's bold.

Do you think your experience encapsulates the entirety of Australian rugby?

I didn't say it was the key, just that everyone has the same opportunity. This thread is about Australian Schoolboys i.e. the actual team chosen to represent not the social justice thread. Try the "Decline in Junior Rugby" thread.

This veered off from your original point, but that aside this is called the
"Australian Schoolboys & National Championships 2016" thread and not the "Talk about the actual team chosen to represent the Australian Schoolboys" thread.

I'd suggest you're narrowing the definition to what you specifically want to discuss.

 

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Are you honestly telling me what I know is correct is incorrect? That's bold.

Do you think your experience encapsulates the entirety of Australian rugby

You used the word "most", had you said "some" or "a few" there would be no argument.

Most of these boys are at school for an education and happen to be very good a rugby.


Plenty of these boys were selected via state B teams and even association B teams and combined states.


So I don't think many of them were assuming automatic selection.

And I think they are all pretty thrilled to be part of it.

 

[amirite]

You used the word "most", had you said "some" or "a few" there would be no argument.

Most of these boys are at school for an education and happen to be very good a rugby.


Plenty of these boys were selected via state B teams and even association B teams and combined states.


So I don't think many of them were assuming automatic selection.

And I think they are all pretty thrilled to be part of it.

No I didn't say "most". Check your post above if you need to, I can't edit it and it sure as hell doesn't say what you're saying.

 

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No I didn't say "most". Check your post above if you need to, I can't edit it and it sure as hell doesn't say what you're saying.

Apologies for the misquote.

I don't think there are "alot" either.

I could name 2 NSW boys who appear set to play professional rugby. I have no idea how their studies are going and if they intend to do further studies. Don't know too much about the interstate boys. Other than most appear to being schooled at very fine institutions.

The rest of them I am sure are talking to clubs and looking at whatever scholarships are about at various unis.

 

[amirite]

Apologies for the misquote.

I don't think there are "alot" either.

I could name 2 NSW boys who appear set to play professional rugby. I have no idea how their studies are going and if they intend to do further studies. Don't know too much about the interstate boys. Other than most appear to being schooled at very fine institutions.

The rest of them I am sure are talking to clubs and looking at whatever scholarships are about at various unis.

What are you even talking about?

You're just misquoting and making points that aren't even tangentially connected to what I said.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I could name 2 NSW boys who appear set to play professional rugby.

Who?

 

[Not in straight]

Who?

All I know is the Gossip that comes from this place.

Thought 1 boy had been linked with France and another with 7's.

The only other professionals were linked with 5 kick. Pretty sure there might be some qld boys with this connection. But the NSW ones bailed out of champs.

I don't pretend to know them all, so could be well wrong.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

All I know is the Gossip that comes from this place.

Thought 1 boy had been linked with France and another with 7's.

The only other professionals were linked with 5 kick. Pretty sure there might be some qld boys with this connection. But the NSW ones bailed out of champs.

I don't pretend to know them all, so could be well wrong.

OK - I thought you were talking Kurtley Beale style full contract with the Tahs beginning October.

 

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OK - I thought you were talking Kurtley Beale style full contract with the Tahs beginning October.

The French one might come close to that

 

[Inside Shoulder]

The French one might come close to that

Yes. And a big call for a prop (I think).
Probably somewhere between Shute Shield and S15 with a bit of Gallic aggro from time to time on what I saw last week.

 

[The Honey Badger]

@amirite, not sure exactly what you are saying.

If you have good knowledge on what the boys are up to, then there is a thread dedicated to such things; The Class of 2016 thread.

Last I looked, there wasn't too much on any of these boys.


Anyway side tracking a bit.


So does anyone know anything of the opposition these boys will be playing.


I see Tongan Schools should be here any day and play Patritian Brothers on the 8 of Sep. Then a NSW CHS team at Newcastle on 13/9.

Has that CHS team been selected? And do boys on Higher duties play?

 

[Shane Smeltz]

@amirite, not sure exactly what you are saying.

If you have good knowledge on what the boys are up to, then there is a thread dedicated to such things; The Class of 2016 thread.

Last I looked, there wasn't too much on any of these boys.


Anyway side tracking a bit.


So does anyone know anything of the opposition these boys will be playing.


I see Tongan Schools should be here any day and play Patritian Brothers on the 8 of Sep. Then a NSW CHS team at Newcastle on 13/9.

Has that CHS team been selected? And do boys on Higher duties play?

I saw Patrician Brothers play yesterday at the Waratah Cup GF.
They looked good, they knew what they were doing, and I think they will give the Tongan boys a good game.
They must have a pretty good coach too as their scrums and line outs looked good.
There are a lot of PI and Maori boys in the Brothers team so in terms of size they will be fair match.

 

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I saw Patrician Brothers play yesterday at the Waratah Cup GF.
They looked good, they knew what they were doing, and I think they will give the Tongan boys a good game.
They must have a pretty good coach too as their scrums and line outs looked good.
There are a lot of PI and Maori boys in the Brothers team so in terms of size they will be fair match.

I believe tongan schools playing NSW CCC next thursday and game moved to TG Milner

 

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I believe tongan schools playing NSW CCC next thursday and game moved to TG Milner

Is there a team posted anywhere for CCC?

 

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Is there a team posted anywhere for CCC?

Understand it is the same team barring injuries/withdrawals and schoolboy rep commitments

2016 NSW CCC 1st XV Team List for NSW All Schools Trials against NSW CHS
1. Josh FOSTER, Mater Maria Catholic College (Warriewood)
2. Nicholas DOLLY, Marian Catholic College (Kenthurst)
3. Richard VAKAUTA, Champagnat Catholic College (Maroubra)
4. Sam GLEESON, St Joseph's Regional College (Port Macquarie)
5. Esei HAANGANA, St Paul's Catholic College (Greystanes)
6. Riley WILSON, Xavier Catholic College (Skennars Head)
7. Delahoya MANU, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
8. Franele BETHAM-MISA, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
9. Jamieson WILLIAMS, St Joseph's Regional College (Port Macquarie)
10. Patrick PELLEGRINI, Champagnat Catholic College (Maroubra)
11. Joshua DELAILOA, St Paul's Catholic College (Greystanes)
12. William HARRISON, Marcellin College (Randwick)
13. Jonathan MITSIAS, Marcellin College (Randwick)
14. Edmund PAHULU, De La Salle College (Ashfield)
15. Angus MARGIN, St Edward's College (Gosford)

16. Timothy LILOMAIAVA, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
17. Benjamin SCHAEFER, St John's College Woodlawn (Lismore)
18. Oscar CUNNINGHAM, Trinity Catholic College (Goulburn)
19. Jonathan HUDDY, Xavier Catholic College (Skennars Head)
20. Austin LATU, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
21. Lachlan STEWART, James Sheahan Catholic High School (Orange)
22. Taquin FAHEY, Mater Maria Catholic College (Warriewood)
23. Jonte WITT, St Edward's College (Gosford)

Manager: Mr Deon NORVAL
Coach: Mr Matthew BARLOW
Assistant Coach: Elijah CARLIN
Trainer: Mr Steve McNAMARA​

 

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Understand it is the same team barring injuries/withdrawals and schoolboy rep commitments

2016 NSW CCC 1st XV Team List for NSW All Schools Trials against NSW CHS
1. Josh FOSTER, Mater Maria Catholic College (Warriewood)
2. Nicholas DOLLY, Marian Catholic College (Kenthurst)
3. Richard VAKAUTA, Champagnat Catholic College (Maroubra)
4. Sam GLEESON, St Joseph's Regional College (Port Macquarie)
5. Esei HAANGANA, St Paul's Catholic College (Greystanes)
6. Riley WILSON, Xavier Catholic College (Skennars Head)
7. Delahoya MANU, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
8. Franele BETHAM-MISA, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
9. Jamieson WILLIAMS, St Joseph's Regional College (Port Macquarie)
10. Patrick PELLEGRINI, Champagnat Catholic College (Maroubra)
11. Joshua DELAILOA, St Paul's Catholic College (Greystanes)
12. William HARRISON, Marcellin College (Randwick)
13. Jonathan MITSIAS, Marcellin College (Randwick)
14. Edmund PAHULU, De La Salle College (Ashfield)
15. Angus MARGIN, St Edward's College (Gosford)

16. Timothy LILOMAIAVA, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
17. Benjamin SCHAEFER, St John's College Woodlawn (Lismore)
18. Oscar CUNNINGHAM, Trinity Catholic College (Goulburn)
19. Jonathan HUDDY, Xavier Catholic College (Skennars Head)
20. Austin LATU, Patrician Brothers' College (Blacktown)
21. Lachlan STEWART, James Sheahan Catholic High School (Orange)
22. Taquin FAHEY, Mater Maria Catholic College (Warriewood)
23. Jonte WITT, St Edward's College (Gosford)

Manager: Mr Deon NORVAL
Coach: Mr Matthew BARLOW
Assistant Coach: Elijah CARLIN
Trainer: Mr Steve McNAMARA​

Harrison and Haangana not playing?

 

[2bluesfan]

NZ Squad announced

Players from 25 secondary schools have been selected for a three-day development camp at AUT Millennium in Auckland on 24 September.

Twenty five schools seems a reasonably good catchment.

Here's the squad for the click-lazy among us:
FORWARDS
Sam Matenga (Prop) Gisborne Boys High School
Kianu Kereru-Symes (Prop) Hastings Boys High School
Robb Cobb (Prop) Mt Albert Grammar School
Michael Palmer (Prop) Mt Albert Grammar School
Tim Farrell (Prop) Napier Boys High School
Damon Abraham (Prop) Sacred Heart College
Tevita Mafileo (Prop) St Kentigern College
Xavier Numia (Prop) St Patrick's College Wellington
Suetena Asomua (Prop) Wesley College
Perry Karati (Hooker) Burnside High School
Bradley Slater (Hooker) New Plymouth Boys High School
Ricky Jackson (Hooker) Otago Boys High School Hooker
Flynn Thomas (Hooker) Southland Boys High School Hooker
Liam Bauckman (Lock) Hastings Boys High School Lock
Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa (Lock) Mt Albert Grammar School Lock
Cameron Suafoa (Lock) St Peter's College L
Laghlan McWhannell (Lock) St Peter's School
Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Lock) Wellington College
Tupou Vaai (Lock) Wesley College
Joshua Hill (Lock) South Otago High School
Sione Havili (Loose forward) Auckland Grammar School
Naera Tipoki (Loose forward)Gisborne Boys High School
Joe Johnston(Loose forward) King's College
Will Tremain (Loose forward) Napier Boys High School
Sam Dickson (Loose Forward) Otago Boys High School
Matene Ruawai (Loose forward)Palmerston North Boys High School
Hoskins Sotutu (Loose forward) Sacred Heart College
Ajay Mua (No.8) King's College
Kaylum Boshier (No.8) New Plymouth Boys High School
Brayden Iose(No.8) Palmerston North Boys High School
BACKS
Folou Fakatava (Halfback) Hastings Boys High School
Tim Hogan (Halfback) Otago Boys High School
Te Ra Whata (Halfback) Rotorua Boys High School
Carlos Price (Halfback) St Kentigern College
Lincoln McClutchie (First Five) Hastings Boys High School
Ciarahn Matoe (First Five) King's College
Kaleb Trask(First Five) Rotorua Boys High School
Harry Plummer (First Five) St Peter's College
Quinn Tupaea (Second Five) Hamilton Boys High School
Paul Roache (Second Five) Mt Albert Grammar School
Tanielu Bakulich-Tele'a (Second Five) St Kentigern College
Scott Gregory(Second Five) Whangarei Boys High School
Hayze Perham(Centre) Rotorua Boys High School
Billy Proctor (Centre) St Patrick's College Wellington
Mosese Dawai (Wing) Fielding High School
Vilimoni Koroi (Wing) Fielding High School
Caleb Clarke (Wing) Mt Albert Grammar School
Leicester Faingaanuku (Wing) Nelson College
Connor Garden-Bachop (Wing) Scots College
Ngane Punivai (Fullback) Christ’s College
Danny Toala (Fullback) Hastings Boys High School
Niven Longopoa (Fullback) Mt Albert Grammar School
Reece Plumtree (Fullback) Wellington College