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Stirling Mortlock (74)
He was fine until he collapsed the maul…
Brumbies v Waratahs, Sat 1st April, GIO
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He was fine until he collapsed the maul…
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George Gregan (70)
My obvs from last night:
Improved performance from the Tahs. Pietcsh much better on the left flank than Nadolo. Nawaqanitawase was a bit rocks and diamonds.
Holloway immense but also coupled with solid shifts from Seu and Hangian. Front row pretty poor once HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) (potentially harshly?) got sent.
Thought the Brumbies tight five were immense. Dominated the Tahs at scrum time and shaded them around the ground. Particularly Slipper. Backrow was effective without being outstanding.
Toole is fast as hell. Great try saver and finish to snatch the game.
Tahs lost that in the second half through patches of play where they made a series of poor choices or unforced errors.
Edit: oh and Gordon much improved. Why is he playing 80 though?
Improved performance from the Tahs. Pietcsh much better on the left flank than Nadolo. Nawaqanitawase was a bit rocks and diamonds.
Holloway immense but also coupled with solid shifts from Seu and Hangian. Front row pretty poor once HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) (potentially harshly?) got sent.
Thought the Brumbies tight five were immense. Dominated the Tahs at scrum time and shaded them around the ground. Particularly Slipper. Backrow was effective without being outstanding.
Toole is fast as hell. Great try saver and finish to snatch the game.
Tahs lost that in the second half through patches of play where they made a series of poor choices or unforced errors.
Edit: oh and Gordon much improved. Why is he playing 80 though?
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George Gregan (70)
So you cant tackle the player with the ball even if you get to him legally? Fuck i hate mauls.
Marce
John Thornett (49)
Nadolo did his best performance of the season, with the microphone in his hands
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Not while the ball carrier is still attached and part of the maul…
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
So not only is he being shepharded into goal but he also can't legally be tackled.
Might as well just throw down a red carpet and hand the hooker a glass of champagne on his way.
John S
Chilla Wilson (44)
From where I was it almost looked like he got there legally and then had his legs taken out by another tah and he was the one pinged
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
If he’s stayed on his feet he probably would’ve held the Brumbies up after they crossed the line.
In a maul a defender can rip the ball from the ball carrier or lock it up so that the carrier can't get it back to their team but cannot pull the player down. If the maul doesn't go forward and the ball carrier can't get the ball out it is a turnover so defenders try to wrap up the ball so it can't come out. As soon as the ref has called maul the ball carrier needs to look to go to ground if his maul is not going to move. Once a knee touches the ground it is a tackle so everyone needs to release the ball carrier then it becomes a ruck.
The tackler needs to get the ball carrier to the ground initially in the tackle so that a maul can't be formed, but difficult to achieve in lineout situations.
The tackler needs to get the ball carrier to the ground initially in the tackle so that a maul can't be formed, but difficult to achieve in lineout situations.
Drew
Bob Davidson (42)
Yeah, I’m with you. It begs the question, when can you sack a maul? And how can you stop the opposition from scoring if you can’t literally tackle the player with the ball? I thought tackling the player with the ball was the idea of the game if you don’t have it.
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Before it’s formed. But then to form a maul you have to pass the ball back from the front only when the jumpers feet touch the ground and when they’re tackled. As we saw with the obstruction from Neville, if there is a player in front of the ball carrier, it’s not a maul.
the maul, while being a unique part of our game, is also the stupidest because it allows obstruction and destroys the contest.
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Teams in that situation should probably play like they have no advantage, and stick to processes. I thought the repetitive scrum sets seemingly with the aim of drawing YCs maybe took them away from their usual patterns. I was surprised it took so long to go for a maul (which ironically they buggered up).
Gordon's season so far has been well below his normal play at Super rugby level so sooner or later he would have a better game; and I agree he was pretty good. Agree re Holloway.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
AFAIK D the ball carrier still can't be brought to ground while part of the maul. Had he collapsed it would have been scrum to the Tahs. Being tackled in the maul is a penalty against the tackler.
Carlin Isles and Perry Baker go alright for the Septic 7s
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Seems to me the only legal way to stop a maul is to hope they slip over lol.
Roger. It'd seem you haven't picked that up from my many posts extolling the virtues of "the beautiful Blue Mountains".