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John I. Dent Cup 2018 - ACT Premier Rugby

Discussion in 'Club Rugby' started by Rugby Central, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. RoffsChoice Peter Johnson (47)

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    Only changes between the Uni team that beat Royals 26-25 and the team that lost to the Eagles on the weekend is one of the locks and the number 8. We've seen them collapse before (Easts rd1, Wests rd7, Whites rd12). I still reckon they pull it off this weekend.
  2. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    I believe Darra are without their fairly handy 10 this weekend in the Canberra Times reported correctly.
  3. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    Just read in the Canberra Times about the drama around Darra's use of fresh reserves last week. What are people's thoughts on this? Darra out, Qbn back in? Qbn might get two mad Mondays in one year!
  4. RoffsChoice Peter Johnson (47)

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  5. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    I don't have an interest either way here and don't envy the ACTRU folks needing to make a call, but, I think I'm leaning towards Darra out Qbn in. It's a terrible situation but rules are there for a reason. I don't suggest there was intent on Darras behalf, and I agree the impact on the result was minor but I'm not sure you can look the other way and maintain integrity on this one.

    I won't be screaming from the rooftops if they go the other way - it's a tough one.

    What do others think?
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  6. RoffsChoice Peter Johnson (47)

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    The rules exist to prevent club rugby from becoming too professional. It's fine to have your 1st grade starters that you haven't used in other games, we want you to have some 1st graders who came from your lower grades. It's basically impossible to be without an option, either, as you'll probably have somewhere between 40 and 70 players who have played in lower grades that day.

    There must be some punishment. A week suspension for the players in question? A points deduction (functionally removing them from the finals)? A fine to the club? I don't know, but something.
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  7. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    Agree - rules are there for a reason. I don't think it is practical to fine clubs as most are not flushed with cash. I would probably be most comfortable with them missing finals this year. Your option of suspending the players involved is a neat middle ground.

    Uni would have to be loving this. Either way they will face a side coming off a very disruptive week. I think uni stand a better chance against Darra than a whites team who would be playing without the pressure of expectations.
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  8. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    Would there be much variation in the way a club would prepare to face Darra as opposed to facing Qbn or do both play a similar game?
  9. RoffsChoice Peter Johnson (47)

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    Having Hawera at 10 let Eagles play in a similar style to Uni, but with more use of the backline. I expect that Uni will train for their own game, and the only difference will be that the forwards will do more work against Eagles, the backs doing more work against Whites.
  10. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    I read Hawera is on holidays this week. Unless Darra found a way to convince him to change plans I think the 15 slots into 10 and Darra become a very different team.
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  11. Brumby Jack Steve Williams (59)

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    Eagles in for this weekend
  12. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    Any punishment for the infringement? Have to wear boots 2 sizes smaller than usual or something similar?
  13. Brumby Jack Steve Williams (59)

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    A 'stern' warning?
  14. RoffsChoice Peter Johnson (47)

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    There were reports that ACTRU were looking into all of their uses of reserves in 1sts. Solid chance that the warning means this was the only example of the rule being broken.
  15. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    I think Tuggies might roll Royals with a surprising degree of ease to move into the GF as hot favourites.
    I think Uni's might sneak past Darra if they haven't found a way to convince Hawera that holiday's are overrated.

    Very pleased to note that in line with how great a season this has been, I wouldn't be even a tad surprised if both results were the opposite to my predictions.
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  16. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    Not a bad game today and good to see Royals going through for a chance to go back to back. I thought Pedro and Jamie Bodman were very good for Royals with Jordan Jackson-Hope the pick of the Vikings backs. Not sure Andrew Robertson added anything on the wing for Vikings other than nostalgia, and if Earnest or Langtry are available I'd have either ahead of him. Odd sort of a game and a big chance Vikings will be back for another shot in two weeks. Put Cussack into that Royals backrow and they look hard to beat!
  17. brumbiesrugby Jim Clark (26)

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    How did Unis go?
  18. Istanbul Vay Wilson (31)

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    Play tomorrow- should be a cracker!
  19. Brumby Jack Steve Williams (59)

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    'Carter to Johnston' not quite the same as 'Larkham to Walker' but still impressive

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  20. Brumby Jack Steve Williams (59)

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    Gungahlin 27 def Uni-Norths 17 in the minor semi final

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