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Quick Hands

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David Wilson (68)
I like to watch said:
If you are a first offender in Qld,you can elect to go down the Justice mediation process.
To do this you must admit your guilt and apologise to the victim/s and make any restitution if applicable.
This is a court supervised process.
Once you have completed the process to the courts satisfaction,they discontinue the proceedings.
In NSW if the court grants you a Section 10,no conviction is recorded.
That does not mean you were declared innocent.
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In the Qld process you mention, the person must first admit their guilt, similarly in NSW a Section 10 follows a guilty plea or finding of guilt. Thus in both cases a court has made a finding of guilt - as opposed to allegations being withdrawn.
 
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George Smith (75)
Pfitzy said:
You can't set an action to NOT take an action.

I think what would end up happening - for the ARU to save face, you understand - is give him a small contract that basically makes it impossible to stay.

Happens all the time in the corporate workplace when you can't afford redundancies: make the conditions of employment so unappealing that the employee just looks elsewhere.

The difference here is we're talking contract versus perm
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Kinda my point but put another way. ARU gives him nothing up front but in theory at least he's still eligible for match & in-camp payments if selected. Waratahs are still free to offer him what they want or can under the salary cap. He stays or goes. ARU either gets a new, improved & cheaper KB (Kurtley Beale) or rids itself of a problem child who might still get his shit together & return.
 
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David Codey (61)
Quick Hands said:
In the Qld process you mention, the person must first admit their guilt, similarly in NSW a Section 10 follows a guilty plea or finding of guilt. Thus in both cases a court has made a finding of guilt - as opposed to allegations being withdrawn.
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That's what we were talking about wasn't it?
KB (Kurtley Beale) going down the justice mediation route when he popped the bouncer in Qld?
Absolutely the court found him innocent of any wrongdoing with his NSW charges.
 
Sully

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Quick Hands said:
In the Qld process you mention, the person must first admit their guilt, similarly in NSW a Section 10 follows a guilty plea or finding of guilt. Thus in both cases a court has made a finding of guilt - as opposed to allegations being withdrawn.
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Yup. Same thing happened to Cooper with the Laptop. Admitted guilt and then went to mediation
 
KOB1987

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Beale will get a fine and will be barred from the EOYT, which will unofficially signal the end of his time in gold..if the tahs offer him enough coin he will stick around..otherwise he's GAWNE!


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Biffo

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
brokendown said:
too many fucking lawyers on this thread!
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the great English racehorse trainer Dick Hern once opined "if, throughout my career i had gelded many fewer horses and many more jockeys, i would have trained many more winners.
let's have fewer fucking players, fewer fucking coaches, fewer fucking "administration staff" and fewer management personnel in rugby.

and far fewer fucking lawyers while we purge the excess fucking in rugby.
 
Wilson

Wilson

Phil Kearns (64)
KOB1987 said:
Beale will get a fine and will be barred from the EOYT, which will unofficially signal the end of his time in gold..if the tahs offer him enough coin he will stick around..otherwise he's GAWNE!


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May not matter how much the tahs will give him, the ARU might not register him.
 
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