NRC onwards and upwards

[AussieDominance]

Anyhow....

I think 'NSW Country' will require a branding as they're now essentially a Sydney eastern suburbs club.....

Players do seem to naturally align with city clubs do to facilities and location anyway so I would say they are more than likely to fill that squad with ample amounts of country players.

 

[AussieDominance]

Anyway I hope the NRC succeeds but you blokes need to be realistic that a player is not going to move from his club when his club probably supports him more than the NRC franchise pays him which can be about 2 k to play for 8 - 11 weeks as well as having to bare some relocation expenses.

This is why the NRC is struggling to gain traction. We are about to enter year 3 and I still struggle to be see how it is sustainable without making every rugby club who invested in it go broke.

All well and good for the ARU to tell the people that support them to support it until they start going bankrupt as well.

 

[TOCC]

It's amateur rugby or a faux seme-professional league, it's not designed for players to earn a living off.. If there are young played out there with intent to play at a higher level, and they aren't been offered that opportunity in their affiliated NRC club then they will look for opportunities elsewhere, if they don't then that's there perogative.

Players will naturally gravitate to the NRC team that their club is affiliated with, and there's nothing wrong with that, that's not indicative of the comp failing to gain traction, it's a reflection of an increase in opportunity to play at a higher level.

In QLD it's now a goal or aim to be selected for Brisbane City or QLD Country, it's now recognised as an opportunity to step up to playing professionally and young players want it. NSW is fighting within itself but eventually players will recognise this as well.

 

[Slim 293]

Keep that Shute Shield hate going for every cent it's worth Slim.

I don't hate the Shute Shield......... however I do detest the manner in which it works against the rest of the country to sabotage the progress of Australian rugby.

 

[AussieDominance]

I don't hate the Shute Shield... however I do detest the manner in which it works against the rest of the country to sabotage the progress of Australian rugby.

Sabotage is the wrong word Shute Shield clubs provide the financial support to these NSW sides that would hardly be called sabotaging.

I would say you are 'uninformed' or 'ignorant'.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Sabotage is the wrong word Shute Shield clubs provide the financial support to these NSW sides that would hardly be called sabotaging.

I would say you are 'uninformed' or 'ignorant'.

Outside of the Rays how much financial support has there actually been. The Rams are privately owned with the clubs holding minority stakes, wasn't the 'Fanatics' bloke putting up the cash for the Stars. Fairly certain that Country's backing was majority private as well.

 

[I like to watch]

The Rams weren't privately owned at inception.
How would have the fanatics guy have gone without full backing from Uni?
Ditto Country.
If we are playing the blame game as to who hasn't given the comp enough support,start with the Tahs.
compare the resources they invested in the NRC with the Reds involvement....

 

[Quick Hands]

I don't hate the Shute Shield... however I do detest the manner in which it works against the rest of the country to sabotage the progress of Australian rugby.

I'd love to hear you theory on that. I'd love to see some evidence of that.

Please provide chapter and verse.

Even by internet standards, your statement is such a sweeping, hyperbolic gereralisation to be almost beyond belief.

 

[Quick Hands]

Outside of the Rays how much financial support has there actually been. The Rams are privately owned with the clubs holding minority stakes, wasn't the 'Fanatics' bloke putting up the cash for the Stars. Fairly certain that Country's backing was majority private as well.

Even if you are correct - how precisely does holding a minority stake in a privately owned operation amount to "sabotaging the progress of Australia rugby?"

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Even if you are correct - how precisely does holding a minority stake in a privately owned operation amount to "sabotaging the progress of Australia rugby?"

I was responding to the idea that the clubs are funding the NSW NRC teams. Outside of the Rays which that is actually the case, the level of funding to the others isn't as substatial as some may like to represent.

 

[TOCC]

Same old bloody argument...
Give it a rest, if you want to start Shute Shield pro/con arguments then go start another thread

 

[Quick Hands]

I was responding to the idea that the clubs are funding the NSW NRC teams. Outside of the Rays which that is actually the case, the level of funding to the others isn't as substatial as some may like to represent.

You liked post #224, which I assumed meant that you agreed with it's contents.

 

[TOCC]

So along with the reduction in teams from 9 to 8, they have also scrapped the Bye Round which means the season is 2 weeks shorter. It's starting 1 week later then 2015 and finishing 1 week earlier.

The implications of this along with the Shute Shield finishing 1 week earlier means Sydney teams will align with the QLD teams and have a 3 week break between the club Grand Finals and the first round of the NRC, instead of the situation they faced in 2015 when the Sydney Teams only had a 5 day break. This should have a positive influence on the Sydney team performances.

2015 Club-NRC Season:
SS GF: 15th Aug
QPR GF: 2nd Aug
NRC Rd 1: 20th Aug

2016 Club-NRC Season:
SS GF: 6th Aug
QPR GF: 7th Aug
NRC Rd 1: 27th Aug



In terms of the remaining fixtures, the ARU/Foxtel haven't shirked away from broadcasting games on the NRL/AFL Grand Final weekend, with games on both Saturday and Sunday, they at least managed to play the AFL City teams(Perth and Melbourne) on the Sunday.
AFL GF: Sat 1st Oct
NRL GF: Sun 2nd Oct

 

[TOCC]

Having the NRC on at 3pm works well with the Rugby Championship/ITM Cup and will hopefully capture some of the additional viewers, if nothing else it makes for a great afternoon of sitting on the couch watching rugby.

Rugby Championship
20th Aug 8:05pm AEST vs New Zealand
27th Aug 5:35pm AEST vs New Zealand
10th Sep 8:05pm AEST vs South Africa
17th Sep 8:05pm AEST vs Argentina
2nd Oct 1:05am AEST vs South Africa
9th Oct 5:30am AEST vs Argentina



Fox example:
27th Aug
12:35pm AEST- Waikato vs North Harbour
3:00pm AEST- NSW Eagles vs Brisbane City
5:35pm AEST- Wallabies vs All Blacks

10th Sep
12:35pm AEST- North Harbour vs Manawatu
3:00pm AEST- QLD Country vs Rays
5:35pm AEST- All Blacks vs Pumas
8:05pm AEST- Wallabies vs Springboks

3rd Sep
12:35pm AEST- ITM Cup
3:00pm AEST- NRC
5:35pm AEST- ITM Cup

 

[dru]

That's fabulous scheduling for the NRC. A real win. Surely has to help ratings.

 

[RugbyReg]

Here's a stat for you all. I reckon there's been 45 NRC players who've subsequently gone on to make their Super Rugby debut. Not bad for 2 years.


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[RebelYell]

Here's a stat for you all. I reckon there's been 45 NRC players who've subsequently gone on to make their Super Rugby debut. Not bad for 2 years.


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That's great Reg, do you have a list?

 

[RugbyReg]

That's great Reg, do you have a list?

indeed:

1. Marco Kotze - Brisbane City / Reds
2. Sam Talakai - Brisbane City / Reds
3. Sef Fagaase - Brisbane City / Reds
4. Duncan Paia'aua - QLD Country / Reds
5. Pettowa Paraka - Brisbane City / Reds
6. Michael Gunn - Brisbane City / Reds
7. Adam Korzcyk - Brisbane City / Reds
8. Andrew Ready - Brisbane City / Reds
9. Jake McIntyre - Brisbane City / Reds
10. Sam Greene - Brisbane City / Reds
11. Henry Taefu - Greater Sydney Rams & Brisbane City / Reds
12. Ben Matwijow - NSW Country / Reds
13. Waita Setu - Brisbane City / Reds
14. Junior Laloifi - Brisbane City / Reds
15. Matt Mafi - Brisbane City / Reds
16. James Tuttle - QLD Country / Reds
17. Taniela Tupou - QLD Country / Reds
18. Alex Gibbon - Brisbane City / Reds
19. Robbie Abel - Perth Spirit / Brumbies
20. Ammon Matuauto - Perth Spirit / Force
21. Kane Koteka - Perth Spirit / Force
22. Ross Haylett-Petty - Perth Spirit / Force
23. Richard Hardwick - Perth Spirit / Force
24. Sefanaia Naivalu - Melbourne Rising / Rebels
25. Andrew Kellaway - NSW Country / Waratahs
26. David Horwitz - NSW Country / Waratahs
27. Guy Millar - Greater Sydney Rams / Force
28. Nigel Ah-Wong - Canberra Vikings / Brumbies
29. Les Makin - Canberra Vikings / Brumbies
30. James Dargaville - Sydney Stars / Brumbies
31. Michael Wells - North Harbour Rays / Brumbies
32. Joe Powell - Canberra Vikings / Brumbies
33. Lausli Taliauli - Canberra Vikings / Brumbies
34. Jack Dempsey - North Harbour Rays - Waratahs
35. Jim Stewart - Sydney Stars / Waratahs
36. Matt Phillip - Sydney Stars / Force
37. Tom Robertson - Sydney Stars / Waratahs
38. Ben Hyne - Brisbane City / Brumbies
39. Jermaine Ainsley - Perth Spirit / Force
40. Anuri Rangi - Perth Spirit / Force
41. Harry Scoble - Perth Spirit / Force
42. Sione Tuipulotu - Melbourne Rising / Rebels
43. Ned Hanigan - NSW Country / Waratahs
44. Paul Asquith - Greater Sydney Rams / Rebels

45. Reece Hodge - North Harbour Rays / Rebels

 

[Highlander35]

You can add Tom Moloney to the list Reg, he played 3? Games for the Rebels after playing 5 or so Games for the Rising last year.

 

[RugbyReg]

Awesome. Thought I had missed a couple. Anyone else pick any up just let me know.