Rebels 2016

[RugbyReg]

On the 24th March 2010, the Team barely existed. We had Harold Mitchell, the VRU, Brian Waldron, Rod McQueen, Damien Hill, Greg Harris, Danny Cipriani, Laurie Weeks and Gareth Delve.

On the 24th March 2016, the side has played, then had moved on, 75 players, with an additional 4 players recruited and moved on having never played a game (Chris Thomson, Jed Gillespie, Trent Dyer and Isaiah Mosese).

It's perhaps not a ludicrous amount of turnover, but we were starting a team from scratch. Can't help but feel that we should still have more boys around from "the early years", if we'd done some things better.

The Reds have used 95 in that same time. 8 of whom went to the Rebels and 2 had played for them.

 

[Highlander35]

Is that 95 total, or 95 who've all left, because that'll add the 38 players that are in this years squad, taking that total to an almighty 117 players who've been on the books between 2011 and 2016.

 

[RugbyReg]

95 from then to now who've played for the Reds. Includes current players.


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[Highlander35]

I count 107 then. 79 former players, 4 of which didn't get a game, 38 current players, of which 6 are yet to debut.

Still seems excessive IMO, but if it's really only 2 more players over 6 years, it can't be too bad.

 

[Mr Wobbly]

Anyone know what became of Kimami Sitauti?

 

[AFL_Converted]

I count 107 then. 79 former players, 4 of which didn't get a game, 38 current players, of which 6 are yet to debut.

Still seems excessive IMO, but if it's really only 2 more players over 6 years, it can't be too bad.

Did you count Pauliasi Manu who was recruited but then failed a medical, barely even hitting the training paddock? Now listed with the chiefs.

 

[Dumbledore]

I count 107 then. 79 former players, 4 of which didn't get a game, 38 current players, of which 6 are yet to debut.

Still seems excessive IMO, but if it's really only 2 more players over 6 years, it can't be too bad.

As long as you have a reasonably solid core of players, roster churn is a very good thing IMO. Make the players compete and if they're not up to it move them on. When you go back and look at some of the old teams there was some serious junk around.

 

[Scooter]

Anyone know what became of Kimami Sitauti?

Mr Wobbly Sitauti played 2 seasons with Bay of Plenty in ITM Cup and then went to France Pro D2 side Colomiers.

 

[Marcelo]

Is Kellaway going to the Rebels?

 

[Highlander35]

Is that based on the Cam Clark rumours? I don't buy it. Kellaway is obviously a Golden Boy, but he's a bit light on for a McGahan outside back. Unless the recruitment department is on a different wavelength from what I can see.

 

[RebelYell]

Pama Fou going to the Rebels at the end of the year

 

[TOCC]

Really? That's a bit disappointing for the Seven's program.

Il be interested to see how Pama goes, he doesn't have a massive background in XV's rugby, he might find reading the play and a bit challenging.


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[Highlander35]

That does suck for 7s, but as I said on one of the Sevens threads when people were denigrating me for being into Fou and Clark for 15s, I reckon he could be a real good asset for us, in the mold of the rangy Argentine winger who's name escapes me.

 

[Scooter]

94 players have represented Rebels in Super Rugby. Inagaki player 85 (last debutant last year) plus 9 debutants this year (Hanson, Hodge, Thomson, Hawkins, Hagan, Matsushima, Moloney, Snowden, Tuipulotu)

From my count 61 of those players have moved on plus the four who didn't play a game.
Effectively there are 39 players in squad this year - 37 on website plus Matsushima and Moloney (given they have both played). Yes 6 of them haven't played a game yet.

 

[Scooter]

It just feels a little sad IMO

As far as I can tell, it's only 7 players left from the Pre-McGahan era as of end of Season.

Laurie Weeks (2011)
Mitch Inman (2012)
Nic Stirzaker (2012)
Scott Fuglistaller (2013)
Cruze Ah-Nau (2013)
Tom English (2013)
Jordy Reid (2013)

The players still going professionally from that era?

Hugh Pyle (Stade Francais)
Luke Jones (Bordeaux)
Mark Gerrard (Suntory? Japan anyway)
Nick Phipps (Waratahs)
Peter Betham (Leicester)
Ged Robinson (Crusaders)
Gareth Delve (Ospreys)
Cooper Vuna (Worcestor)
Heath Tessman (Force)
Danny Cipriani (Sale)
Eddie Aholeilei (London Welsh)
Jono Owen (Aukland NPC)
Kurtley Beale (Waratahs)
James O'Connor (Toulon)
Paul Alo-Emile (Stade Francais)
Cadeyrn Neville (Reds)
Scott Higgenbotham (Japan)
Shota Horie (Sunwolves)
Bryce Hegarty (Waratahs)
Jason Woodward (Hurricanes)
Luke Burgess* (Zebre)

Now, some I wouldn't want back because they were never good enough with us, some because of other issues, and some couldn't because they're internationals.

But there's 4-5 I wouldn't mind still having in the squad.

Highlander35 Pat Leafa was also at Rebels in 2013 so he is pre-McGahan.

Also JP du Plessis who played 1 game for Rebels (well about 1 minute of 1 game) is playing for the Kings this year.

 

[Highlander35]

Pat was 2013? Must have missed that.

JP du Plessis huh? What a journeyman. Came over to play for the Roosters I think, then played with us, then I think he went to the Stormers, then bounced around Currie Cup sides. Back in Super Rugby now I guess. Good luck to him, but he deserves the journeyman mocker IMO.

 

[Scooter]

JP du Plessis is certainly a journeyman. He even spent some time at Montpellier.

 

[Dumbledore]

Is Kellaway going to the Rebels?

I wish. Doubt McGahan would be interested though, unless they're thinking about him at 13? Love the Pama Fou pick up.

JP du Plessis is probably the worst player to wear Rebels colours. I still remember him in that first pre-season, utterly inept.

 

[upthereds#!]

That does suck for 7s, but as I said on one of the Sevens threads when people were denigrating me for being into Fou and Clark for 15s, I reckon he could be a real good asset for us, in the mold of the rangy Argentine winger who's name escapes me.

montero?

 

[pjm]

Do Rebels have a back up plan for Debreczini?