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Reds 2019

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RugbyReg, Jul 14, 2018.

  1. RugbyReg Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    Will try to update squad lists but this is what I have very quickly from the top of my head. Let me know what needs updating and changing:

    CONTRACTED:

    Hookers:
    Alex Mafi - 2019

    Props:

    Ruan Smith - 2020
    James Slipper - 2020 (Status unsure at this stage)
    Taniela Tupou - 2020
    JP Smith - 2020

    Locks:

    Lukhan Tui - 2020
    Angus Blythe - 2020
    Izack Rodda - 2020
    Harry Hockings - 2020
    Backrow:

    Scott Higginbotham - 2019
    Angus Scott-Young - 2019
    Caleb Timu - 2019

    Scrumhalf:

    James Tuttle - 2019
    Moses Sorovi - 2020

    Flyhalf:

    Quade Cooper - 2019
    Hamish Stewart - 2019

    Centres:

    Samu Kerevi - 2019
    Chris Feauai-Sautia - 2019
    Duncan Paia'aua - 2019

    Wings:

    Filipo Daugunu - 2020
    Izaia Perese - 2019

    Fullback:

    Aidan Toua - 2019
    Karmichael Hunt - 2019

    DEPARTING:

    Andrew Ready - GONE (Western Force TBC)
    Sef Faagase - GONE (New Zealand TBC)
    Kane Douglas - GONE (Bordeaux)
    Reece Hewat - GONE?
    Michael Gunn - GONE?
    George Smith - GONE (Bristol)
    Ben Lucas - GONE (Retired?)
    Nick Frisby - GONE (Glasgow)
    Jono Lance - GONE (Worcester Warriors)
    Eto Nabuli - GONE (Bordeaux)
    Lachlan Maranta - GONE??

    TBC:

    Brandon Paenga-Amosa - ??
    Harry Hoopert - ??
    Adam Korczyk - ??
    Liam Wright - ??
    Tate McDermott - ??
    Teti Tela - ??

    Jordan Petaia - ??

    Lots to update. Let's try to find links where we can.
  2. neilc Syd Malcolm (24)

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    Last mention I can find of Kerevi's contract was when he re-signed in 2016 for 2 years which means he should be up for a new contract now. Last time the Rebels and Brumbies were both keen.
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  3. TSR Bob Davidson (42)

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    You missed Jordan Petaia Reg.
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  4. TSR Bob Davidson (42)

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    I try to remain optimistic, or at least keep posts mainly to the positive slant.

    The above player list has the bones of a good squad. Not a championship squad, but a pretty handy one.

    Over the last few weeks I have read numerous comments and articles, some claiming Thorn is on the right track and has broad support of the playing squad and plenty of others which say the exact opposite.

    A couple of issues will be which players are off contract looking for upgrades and how many, if any, of Slipper, Hunt & Cooper find new homes over the off season.

    That aside, if the Reds can successfully retain the majority or all of their best players then I assume that Thorn has broad support for what he is doing and we can reasonably expect to see progress next year. If not, then I take it that the rumours in here are based in solid foundations.

    One thing I would like to know - is Tony McGahan’s Contract up?

    Edit: although my last question should not suggest he is the root of all of our problems, but I have never understood the value in his appointment.
  5. lou75 Ron Walden (29)

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    ^^^ he isn't the root of the solution and neither is your captain - get rid of the both of them imho
  6. TSR Bob Davidson (42)

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    ??? Why in particular do you think we would be better off getting rid of Higgers?
  7. lou75 Ron Walden (29)

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    he is a selfish player and doesn't communicate to his team , lacks leadership skills of team building, lacks commitment to the team and the team result and his loyalty is to himself only not the team (imho). He doesn't mentor younger players - they can sink or swim to him. The Reds could use a captain that instills a vision to the squad and trust and builds loyalty and team commitment to the end result. Surely with the junior squads you can do better
  8. TSR Bob Davidson (42)

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    Genuinely interested Lou - do you know that personally or is it just your impression?

    I don’t know him personally at all and have no insight other than what I see or read, but that certainly wasn’t the impression I got.

    I can see in his play that he sometimes plays for himself, but by and large he seems to work well in unison. From what I have always read & heard he is liked and well regarded by peers. I was of the understanding that he was well regarded when at the Rebels.

    I had heard he had issues with Cheika - but that could be as simple as professional ego - Cheika decided he couldn’t fill a role and Higgers felt slighted. Or if could be complete crap too. My source was a passing conversation with someone in Brisbane club rugby. In any case I am not sure that in itself, even if 100% true, is overly damning.
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  9. lou75 Ron Walden (29)

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    It is from my observations of him during the game and previously when he was in Melbourne. For example, Stirzaker was a great mentor for younger players, as was Tamati Ellison - but going against McGahan got them frozen out by McGahan. Higgers just looks after himself. And there's nothing wrong with that - but as a captain there is.
  10. RugbyReg Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    yeah, Higgers wouldn't be my skipper next year. In saying that we have such a scant knowledge of the squad for next year that it's hard to know who should be. Two of the leading candidates are probably Izack Rodda (21) and Liam Wright (20).

    Perhaps Duncan Paia'aua if he can get his act in gear? James Tuttle would be a worthy candidate too but he will be challenged to secure a starting spot.
  11. neilc Syd Malcolm (24)

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    There's barely anyone in the squad you have above that has any captaincy experience. Kerevi perhaps, assuming he re-signs? I think he captained the side a couple of games. Rodda would certainly command a starting spot but does he have the capabilities to pull the team together if they need it? Very thin on experience from the names there at the moment.
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  12. RugbyReg Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    I throw Rodda there as he was on-field captain Friday night towards the end
  13. neilc Syd Malcolm (24)

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    I didn't realise he became the captain in that match, I think you're right then, he would have to be in consideration as captain if they make a change.
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  14. SouthernX Trevor Allan (34)

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    Thanks for creating this thread Reg. The 2018 thread was starting to get very doom and gloom with gameday attendance numbers, incompetent front office management and inexperienced coaching setups. The likelihood of all those topics returning to this thread are probable but at the moment I can visit this thread and be excited for the future of my favourite super rugby team.
  15. dru John Hipwell (52)

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    I guess it is early days, but until we get further through the TBCs in Reg's list that is a very sketchy squad.

    Hard to see much of a build-on from 2018 if the turnover is that high. Which in turn suggests a year much like this one - though hopefully the extra year's experience in the coaching crew being helpful.
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  16. Strewthcobber John Hipwell (52)

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    :( You're not wrong!
    And only really Rodda and Kerevi - and maybe Timu at a stretch, would have RA topups which can often delay announcements.
  17. dru John Hipwell (52)

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    I'm guessing that the two NRC teams will feature plenty of talent from Premier.
  18. eldiablo Allen Oxlade (6)

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    Here's hoping! Plenty on show this year.
  19. Brumby Runner Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Not saying that any of those three shouldn't have a top up, Strewth, but in the past top ups were only offered to Wallabies with 2 years in the side - remember the cock up about the Wallaby Captain, Ben Mowen, not being offered a top up because he hadn't been in the squad the required 2 years. Has there been a change of eligibility? If not, then I don't think either of Rodda or Timu would yet be on a top up from the ARU.
  20. Up the Guts Desmond Connor (43)

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    I reckon the Reds will have some of the most talented up and comers in Super Rugby next year, the only problem is they're all so damn young. I'd love to see an average age when the squad is finalised.

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