Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by boyo, Mar 10, 2013.
Better England getting f*cked over by Owens than us getting f*cked over by Garces.
^ Isn't Garces on Ringinland's payroll these days? Read it on here so must be true.
Marler gets 10 weeks for having a fondle of Alan Wyn Jones' plums.
Harsh for Joe but WR needed to throw the book at him to make a point.
I don't think harsh at all. There is no place for this in the game and especially not in an international game telecast to the world. I'm not sure how weeks got knocked off for remorse for a player who is saying the whole thing was 'bollocks' and has a record of such acts in the not too distant past.
What I continue to struggle with is all the rationale for the various adjustments to penalties.
I really don't get this, they did a bad thing but hey they are a great guy. A more transparent incremental penalty system that increases would be better than what we seem to have. They have enough incidents and cases to draw up and communicate a clearer approach to this. Be nice for said approach to then be communicated as the norm for all comp's because there also seems to be some variance between those as well.
when I saw Tenured Quiffboy Jordie catch that ball out of bounds and land in bounds I thought no way. Always thought it was out if the ball crossed the plane but damnit the ref and linesman were totally fine with it even though on replay it just looked all kinds of wrong
Geez who would of guessed the Refs knew the laws of the game better than us??
Actually thought it show how much Jordie has come on, knew the law obviously!
Yeah, I was surprised the Refs knew the laws as well. Its Law 18-2-(b) - A player jumps, from within or outside the playing area, and catches the ball, and then lands in the playing area, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.
I love the way Jaco says its the new law to Cruden; it's been law for a few years now.
So how come no player has tried it to such an extent before? Quiffboy was standing about 3 metres out of bounds and knew exactly what he was doing.
Cue away grounds in the Republic to now flood the sideline area with warming-up players, cables, advertising hoardings, bouncy castles, whatever, all while leaving the home team hawf of the field pristinely spartan for the local lads to get a good running jump.
And then, in the 2nd half, move all the detritus down into the other half of the field. "Just a coincidence. It was raining on that half of the field so we just moved the stuff out of the rain."
Lets face it, its only a small group of players will know the Laws. Even the Refs struggle with them. The Tahs for example certainly won't as they are struggling to remember to catch, pass, run; and that on the rare occasion they trip over the first hurdle and remember to turn up.
I have only seen a few players try it and a few get it right. But typically it would be a frickin BBBBBarrettt that actually managed to do it and in a spectacular way that caught everyone's attention. Showboating! You can tell by his pretty boy haircut.
My question is why don't they try and lift players to try and intercept the ball when it's kicked for touch on a penalty?
Hard to know where the ball is going out, half our kickers don't even know where it's going.
I seem to remember some hoo-ha back in the day when your Nobody was either the jumper or lifter in an attempt to block a shot at goal from a penalty & a resulting Law tweak that applies to both kicks for touch & shots at goal.
He originally jumped to block a penalty, no lifters involved, and was successful. The boring old NH couldn't countenance the possibility of an athletic challenge to their age-old game plan of go for field position and then win a dubious scrum or breakdown penalty.
Man, back when rugby was exciting and Australia was any good at it. Now it's just Joe Marler fondling scrota to the soundtrack of the ref's voice. At least holier-than-Folau's not around to cast judgement.
Yep changed some time back.
Otherwise teams would be practicing this
There was a fair bit of info, I think at the beginning of last year's SR comp, that the plane of touch had been discarded. I think Jordy was brilliant in this incident and as I understand the new protocols, completely within the laws.
That's what i thought till the Welsh pulled Toomua's penalty kick back in at the RWC. Mentioned the plane to an Englishman i was with and he looked at me like an idiot.
You can no longer score a try by grounding the ball against the goalpost padding:
^^^Logical decision based on the increasing thickness of the pads.
Good, it was rubbish that a team could ground the ball against a pad but the defending team were deemed offside if they stood in front of the pad.
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