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RWC 2019 SF1: New Zealand v England

Discussion in 'Rugby Matches' started by waiopehu oldboy, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. Dan54 Paul McLean (56)

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    I never actually thought he meant step outside for a punch up, but I suppose if you take things that way I guess you could take it to mean that, just shows how we spend our lives:)
  2. Tex Ken Catchpole (46)

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    I can't think of any other reason to invite someone to step outside.

    Anyway, I'm personally not particularly stressed about what he said, more bemused by the hand wringing and moaning every time Cheika gets irritable at a press conference. Makes me suspect people with grind stones are looking for axes.
  3. Bobby Sands Ken Catchpole (46)

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    I agree, step outside means one thing. Given it was a press conference if he wanted to explain himself further in a non-physical way he had the perfect forum.
  4. waiopehu oldboy Tim Horan (67)

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  5. dru Mark Ella (57)

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    Don’t think this helps the haka at all. Only likely to raise ire from the few who don’t like it.
  6. Derpus Andrew Slack (58)

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  7. Sully John Eales (66)

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    I wonder if you would get fined if you crossed the halfway near the sideline. There is room here for some experiments.
  8. fatprop David Wilson (68)

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    My take on this game?

    The Poms played the best, most dominant, most complete game of rugby against seriously top class opposition I have seen in years

    It will be interesting if they can get to the same level two weeks in a row
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  9. cyclopath Phil Waugh (73)

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    World Rugby continuing to struggle to find the pulse of the rugby public.
    I reckon most real rugby fans are equally happy to see the haka and other challenges performed, as they are to see teams respond to the challenge. This sort of thing will only increase the babbling from the mouth-breathers about banning it.
  10. John S Bob Loudon (25)

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    They should be fined for Farrell's smirk but not the challenge
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  11. Derpus Andrew Slack (58)

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    That smirk would have made a legendary meme if they lost.

    Shame.
  12. waiopehu oldboy Tim Horan (67)

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    Dane Coles re: the haka brouhaha:

    "I thought it was awesome, that's what the haka is about, it's a challenge. They walked forward. I know all the boys were pumped for it we were looking around like 'let's go'.

    "From an All Blacks perspective we didn't think it was bad. We thought it was awesome."

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12280977

    Pretty much what everyone I've spoken to or heard talking about it with others have said.
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  13. formerflanker Bob Davidson (42)

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    Fans love the drama.
    However, the issue is that NZ rugby and World Rugby have given the haka an unlimited licence, while opposing teams have many restrictions placed on them.
    From NZs increasing professionalism and aggressive performance of the haka through to World Rugby's overly protective rules and regulations, there is no even playing field.
    The argument that the haka has cultural significance does not give NZ carte blanche to do it however they want. The current theatre of haka performance is a recent innovation and so aggressive challenges could be introduced too.
  14. Dan54 Paul McLean (56)

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    :rolleyes:
  15. wamberal David Codey (61)

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    I think it is as much about attitude and self-belief as anything else. They have it in spades, and will not lose it in a hurry.
  16. wamberal David Codey (61)

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    As for the haka, I like to see it performed, but why not at the end of the game? At the moment it is a bit more like a stage show than a genuine expression of a traditional errrr welcome or expression of respect or whatever it is meant to be (no disrespect intended)
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  17. Teh Other Dave Trevor Allan (34)

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    If only they refereed the offside lines with such vigour.

    Rimshot.
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  18. Dan54 Paul McLean (56)

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    Funny thing is Wam, it a bit strange to lay down a challenge after the game, mind you could do it then and also the anthems I suppose!
  19. dru Mark Ella (57)

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    No. After would be a nonsense. Challenge (and response) up front.
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  20. wamberal David Codey (61)

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    I have been labouring under the impression that the haka was not just a challenge. I have seen it performed at a wedding. And it is performed on all sorts of occasions, apparently as a gesture of respect. Or mourning. Or just about anything, from what my Anglo-Saxon brain can understand.



    So I repeat my view. It seems to me that it could just as easily, and appropriately, be performed at the end of the game. In fact, that might be more appropriate in terms of ours being a sport, and not actual warfare.

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