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Super Rugby AU Round 5 Brumbies v Reds Saturday 7.15 GIO Stadium

Discussion in 'Rugby Matches' started by TSR, Jul 29, 2020.

  1. TSR Jim Lenehan (48)

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    The Brumbies also score some very well constructed set piece tries off their lineout.

    One of the reasons these are normally so effective is that teams know that their forwards have to defend the threat of the driving maul.
  2. The Nomad Vay Wilson (31)

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    Spot on and the first two you mention ( binding in front of the ball and the player with the ball swimming back in the maul rather than the ball being moved back) are not difficult to spot or police from a reffing point of view. One simple TMO review before the conversion attempt would pick them up if the on field ref chose to ignore them .

    Think something as simple as making the attacking team use it once the maul came to an initial standstill would even out the contest without changing the fabric of the game .
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  3. wamberal David Codey (61)

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    If ever a team deserved to win a game of rugby it was the Reds. Great performance, desperately unlucky to lose that one.
  4. Sully John Eales (66)

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    I think this is a false assumption. The Brumbies have a very good maul. The best defence could be to disrupt the lineout as much as possible.
  5. TSR Jim Lenehan (48)

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    Quite possibly.

    I was more meaning that once the lineout was over, defenders don’t spread so quickly because they are getting ready to hit the driving maul. This gives the Brumbies the jump on them and that crucial half a second which can be the difference between getting through a hole or not.
  6. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I've never understood why more teams don't try this, particularly the Waratahs who have had a pretty good defensive lineout in the last couple of years and pretty poor maul defence.

    If you're roughly 50/50 on giving up a try from the 5m lineout maul then why not contest the throw and hope you disrupt it?
  7. Adam84 Ken Catchpole (46)

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    numbers game.

    Even the best defensive line-outs only manage to disrupt the opposition ball around 20-25% of the time, so teams are faced with the choice of:
    25% chance of stealing/disrupting the opposition line out, or
    50% chance of disrupting a rolling maul if they don't send up a jumper.

    If a team contests the line out but the attacking team still secure their own ball then the opportunity to disrupt the opposition rolling maul is pretty low, against a maul like the Brumbies it would be almost impossible.
  8. Dctarget Geoff Shaw (53)

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    We saw it tonight pretty successfully from the Rebels in the first half no?
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  9. dru Steve Williams (59)

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    More the point for me, against a rolling Brumby maul the defence is not 50/50. Get up early. And learn how to sack the line out.
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  10. Sully John Eales (66)

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    You don't even need to win the lineout, just disrupt it. a knock on is still better than the brumbies maul.
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  11. dru Steve Williams (59)

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    Sully, is it strange that we can agree on rugby?

    I think so.

    Still +1
  12. Frank Stanley Frank Row (1)

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    Deegan is the next Wallaby 10
  13. Adam84 Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Rebels might be regretting the Carter Gordon contract now, especially if it means Deegan moves on
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