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Sydney Colts - 2015

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Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Colts 1 Stats roundup

Missing the stats from a few teams/matches so any summary is most likely rather inaccurate.
Further the adjustment to the Penrith Withdrawal from Colts 1 has yet to be made to the individual scoring detail on Rugby Link.
Until that is done then the stats roundup has no meaning, so I won't be publishing any.

F'r instance: Tommy Gilbert (Norths) is recorded to have scored 5 tries in the Norths to Penrith 28-0 "forfeit", with Jack Clancy and Charlie Oldham also making a hat trick of meat pies in the same non-game. Gordon Enari (Southern Districts) similarly got a Hat trick in the Hobbits v Emus, and 5 of his team mates are recorded to have scored one try in that non-game. Austin Osagie (Manly) 6 tries, Thomas Langrell with 5 tries and 7 other Marlins young men are recorded as collecting a meat pie or two in their rout. Morgan Thomas (Manly) will be deducted 14 conversions from that match.

Notes:
Parramatta, Sydney University - No Team List or scoring detail Round 1. Doesn't matter about no team list for Uni due to the Penrith "no game"
Parramatta - No Team List or scoring detail Round 2
Manly, Penrith - Scoring detail to be removed from the Penrith "no game" in Round 2
Parramatta - No Team List or scoring detail Round 3
Southern Districts - Scoring detail to be removed from the Penrith "no game" in Round 3
Warringah - No Team List for Round 3, but they didn't trouble the scorekeeper so this doesn't really matter.
Parramatta, Warringah - No Team List or scoring detail Round 4
Northern Suburbs - Scoring detail to be removed from the Penrith "no game" in Round 4
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Round 5 Results

W. McMahon Memorial Shield - Colts 1
Gordon 21 Manly 26
Northern Suburbs 32 Eastern Suburbs 10
Parramatta 28 Eastwood 21
Randwick 28 The Bye 0
Sydney University 36 Southern Districts 15
West Harbour 33 Warringah 17


Shell Trophy - Colts 2
Gordon 71 Manly 0
Northern Suburbs 29 Eastern Suburbs 28
Parramatta 24 Eastwood 12
Randwick 97 Penrith 0
Sydney University 36 Southern Districts 5
West Harbour 32 Warringah 8


Bill Simpson Shield - Colts 3
Gordon 31 Manly 5
Northern Suburbs 19 Eastern Suburbs 12
Parramatta 12 Eastwood 33
Randwick 31 Penrith 0
Sydney University 22 Southern Districts 10
West Harbour 20 Warringah 19


Round 6 Games - 25 April
Eastern Suburbs v Randwick
Parramatta v West Harbour
Eastwood v Penrith (Bye in Colts 1)
Southern Districts v Manly
Sydney University v Northern Suburbs
Warringah v Gordon

Edit: Thanks @RiggerPlease for score update
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Colts Club Championship Watch:
The usual suspects continue to consolidate their positions at the top 1/2 of the 2015 table. It is only bonus points and a loss to The Corporation Colts 3 that separate the top 3. To some, Gordon are the surprise package for 2015 with some shrewd recruiting in the off season, attracting many former players from Junior Village Clubs in the Gordon footprint, building on the foundation of their very young colts teams from 2014.

There are a maximum of 55 points available to a club each week, based on all 3 colts teams winning with a 4 try BP.

Randwick, 275 points
Northern Suburbs, 262 points
Sydney University, 261 points
Gordon, 205 points
Southern Districts, 163 points
Manly, 141 points
Eastwood, 107 points
Eastern Suburbs, 103 points
West Harbour, 76 points
Parramatta, 59 points
Penrith, 13 points
Warringah, 5 points


How the Colts Club Championship table is calculated.
The competition points from the individual competitions are multiplied by the following factors and then added together.
Colts 1 - 6
Colts 2 - 3
Colts 3 - 2
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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^^^Rats draw so far:
Round 1 v Hobbits
Round 2 v Shoremen
Round 3 v Wicks
Round 4 v Woodies
Round 5 v Pirates

Colts 3 were forfeited in Round 1 and 2.

Short of The Corporation (R10), Marlins (R11) and resurgent Highlanders (R6), they have done it pretty tough so far.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Gary Owen III said:
Press release today - Sydney Rugby Union Announcement

Sydney Premier Rugby 1st Grade Colts
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The Club is encouraged to continue to field eligible teams in 2nd and 3rd Grade Colts and with players from the 1st XV filtering down it is expected that these teams will be most competitive.
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Tough gig coming up against a red hot Wicks mob after the "revolution".

While there is always flux in the Colts grade a young man will be in from week to week, looking at the Penrith Colts 2 Team sheet on Rugbylink for round 5, there hasn't been too many of their 1st XV flow down to the Colts 2nd XV which were thumped by Wicks 2nd XV by 97-0 yesterday.

I hope that this move by SRU will not result in the majority of the former Emus Colts 1st XV being lost to rugby.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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^^^ Only Emus Grade team on rugby link ATM is First Grade. There were none from the Colts programme in their Round 5 First Grade team. Will need to wait until about Wednesday for most of the lower grade teams to be posted.
 
Quick Hands

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Hugh Jarse said:
Tough gig coming up against a red hot Wicks mob after the "revolution".

While there is always flux in the Colts grade a young man will be in from week to week, looking at the Penrith Colts 2 Team sheet on Rugbylink for round 5, there hasn't been too many of their 1st XV flow down to the Colts 2nd XV which were thumped by Wicks 2nd XV by 97-0 yesterday.

I hope that this move by SRU will not result in the majority of the former Emus Colts 1st XV being lost to rugby.
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What's the solution?

My understanding is that up until this week Penrith colts have had guys doubling up and in some cases playing part of 3 games. IMO their withdrawal from Colts 1 is sensible from a safety perspective and also from a development perspective. This brings the problem of the 2nds and 3rds results from yesterday - either their 1sts played Randwick 2s and the 2nds played Randwick 3s and lost 97-0 and 31-0 or the Colts 1 boys played lower grades, where the losses were 31-15, 130-7, 107-0 & 36-12, or they didn't play at all. I can't see a win for rugby in any of these scenarios.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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If there was an easy solution, it would have been implemented sometime within the last 10-15 years. I don't pretend to know the answer/s.

I jealously look to where the $40m surplus from RWC 2003 that JO'N told us that was earmarked for grass roots went to. Doesn't seem to have made much effect in Western Sydney. Fast forward to 2015 and ARU has no money, and Mick Doyle has the responsibility of sorting it out Penrith Colts, as if the existing stock of volunteers working their arses off to keep the club going are a bunch of nincompoops, which they are not. Mick is a very competent person but one suspects that he has been given a rather Herculean task.

Looking at the Colts 2 team sheets, compared to other Penrith Colts 1 team sheets, most of the lads yesterday for Colts 2s were not the first choice 1st XV players, although about 1/2 of them have played one or more game, often off the bench for Colts 1 so far this year.
 
Quick Hands

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
I'm not sure that there is a solution. The question was in a sense rhetorical.

2003 was the moment IMO - the situation was improving at that point and Penrith used to field 4 colts teams and the firsts were competitive. We look back ruefully and ponder where we would be now had rugby gone in hard at that point with manpower and resources to assist the locals to get the place up and running as a 1st division club.

My fear is that the situation has detiorated to such a point that youngsters in the Penrith area don't consider rugby to be an option - or if they do it's not with the emus.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Southern Districts Reports - Round 5
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RD 4 v. Sydney Uni:

Well the big round had finally arrived with Souths playing Uni at Uni. The timing was not great coming of a disappointing round against Easts, it was going to be tough and would show our character as players and as a colts group.

The signs were not looking good with Uni forfeiting the 18s which was very disappointing as the 18s were jumping out of their skins for the game and would have set a good standard for the day.

3rds like all teams for the day started the game with an early try against them and then it was like, ok you have your head start and now we will start playing and from then on it was a tight contest. A contrast in styles with Uni like ballet dancers and souths like the mosh pit at an AC/DC concert. Souths were into the Uni players with there big ball runners and some hard hitting defense and the Uni team were at times rattled and 2 yellow cards to Uni is very rare and some ill discipline was starting to appear in their game.

Souths were down 7 nil but a penalty goal and a nice team try to Alex Hoy had souths in front 10 to 7, but we could not get the next points to really put the pressure on Uni who ran out winners 22 to 10. The game was very even and 3rds are looking pretty solid.

2nds were looking to show the previous weeks loss to Easts was just one of those days but a quick Uni try had the hallmarks of a carve up. The boys settled down and started to play some rugby and were showing the character that was needed.

When playing Uni the secret is to keep mistakes to a minimum as Uni are terrific at hurting you on turn over ball. They are exceptional at counter attack and always have speed out wide and good passing skills and this is all Uni did and just fed off our mistakes.

A nice try to the flying Tom Evans and a number of good breaks and good phases showed the boys are moving in the right direction and the 36 to 5 scoreline is a true difference between the teams but the gifted 20 odd points to Uni shows that we can improve over the next 13 rounds till the finals.

1sts were our last hope for some success and the boys early efforts in defence were encouraging and the talk was up and the energy levels were high. The scrum was rock solid and on there ball we had them under all sorts of pressure.
Uni were looking sharp and from a spectators point of view it looked like some good rugby was going to be played. Uni have a pet play of hitting the A B Chanel then go wider to a forward who engages the first defensive back and quick ball to the aligned Uni backs give then an overlap for try.
Souths struggled against this early and gifted Uni a good lead. Uni were running with a solid wind behind them and in the back end of the 1st half Souths were getting right back into game but the scoreboard was not reflecting this.
Luke Mrakovic who was playing strongly at lock did his ACL, our hopes go out to him that it is not too bad and he is back playing in a few weeks.

The 2nd half was a real arm wrestle with a good try to Tom Doyle and the forwards pick and drive really opened up some opportunities for our 9 Rory Davis to split Uni open a few times. The backs started to get their mojo going and our defense was solid with outstanding scramble defense, but the inability to just hold onto the ball at crucial times killed us, and as coach Alan Wright pointed out Uni went 19 phases in our 22 and didn't score and we forced a turn over and on our 2nd phase we knocked on.
Uni ended up winning 36 to 15 and throughout all 3 games Uni bought there A game so we have their respect as a club. We have 13 weeks to bridge the gap and it starts this week v Manly.

I said to the 1st colts side after the game we have had 4 games on the road and next week we have a home game against Manly who are a quality club and during a season teams will play 3 or 4 mini grand finals as part of their season leading to the finals. Next week the Manly game is one of those mini grand finals not for any specific team, but for all of colts from 18s to 1st colts.

We need ALL players to give training a high priority over work, Uni, studying, family and get to training early and put in a solid weeks work and come out on Saturday with steam coming out of the ears, and we need colts supporters to be there on Saturday to support all the teams from 18s to 1sts. I am already counting down the days till Saturday.

Player of the day goes to Pat Kuenzie, Pat is an ex back who has switched to lock this year and has been improving each week. Lock is a difficult position to learn, you are a line out jumper, a crucial person in the scrums and have to be mobile with a high work rate, plenty of tackles and runs and make a difference at the rucks and Mauls and Pat had a full game in 2nds and over half a game in 1sts and against Uni this is a hard days rugby well done Pat.
https://southerndistrictscoltsrugby.teamapp.com/articles/253637-round-5-sydney-uni-match-report
 
Hugh Jarse

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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Northern Suburbs win Sam Carson Cup

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Pix: https://www.facebook.com/northsrugby

The Sam Carson Cup (named after former Northern Suburbs player - Sam Carson who sadly suffered a brain injury in an accident) occurs annually when Northern Suburbs plays against Eastern Suburbs Colts.
This event raises money for the Fresh Tracks Foundation.

To find out more about Sam Carson and the Fresh Tracks Foundation follow the links below:
http://www.freshtracks.com.au/sams-story.php
 
the baz

the baz

Alfred Walker (16)
with most, if not all teams, having limited training sessions this week, should be some interesting results:
Randwick by 30
wests by 12
manly by 7
norths by 7 (match of the round)
Gordon by 50
 
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