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Waratahs 2010

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fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Waratahs on verge of Mitchell deal

Greg Growden and Rupert Guinness | April 23, 2009

AFTER re-signing captain Phil Waugh, the Waratahs are set to announce that they have snared the signature of Drew Mitchell from the Western Force and that Rob Horne, Lachie Turner and Dean Mumm will also be committing their futures to NSW.

Depending on final negotiations, which are understood to involve the Australian Rugby Union, the Waratahs are poised to announce they have been successful in luring Mitchell from Perth to Sydney.

His signing will immediately solve coach Chris Hickey's problem of who will take over at fullback from Sam Norton-Knight, who is bound for Cardiff at the end of the season.

Mitchell was one of several Force players caught up in the Firepower saga, having been lured to Perth from Queensland with the promise of a giant contract from the failed fuel technology company. Mitchell - like other Force players such as Matt Giteau - struggled to get paid and the dream sponsorship turned into a nightmare when Firepower was exposed by the Herald as a spectacular fraud.

The Herald has also been told the Waratahs are close to revealing they have secured the services of Horne, Turner and Mumm. They have also recently been in contact with their most dynamic of recent forwards Dan Vickerman, who is in England studying at Cambridge University.

Luring Vickerman back to the Waratahs would be difficult but the team's hierarchy has made it known he would be welcome if he wanted to resurrect his career in Australia. The Waratahs realise they are short of second-row talent, especially as they look upon Mumm as a future specialist blindside breakaway. In Vickerman's absence, Mumm has excelled in the second row, but he has made it no secret No.6 is his preferred position.


After yesterday confirming he had re-signed with the ARU and NSW, Waugh said he planned to spend much of his time badgering off-contract teammates to remain.

"I will probably get in their ears now and try and get them to stay," said the 29-year-old No.7 and Waratahs captain, who has 107 Super caps. "I hope my decision is a positive influence on other guys who may have more money on the table elsewhere, but are happy to sacrifice a little to stay here."

The NSWRU is also hoping Waugh's decision to stay will encourage other players to re-sign with the Waratahs.

"The priority was to get Phil for Phil's sake for how he plays and his leadership," NSWRU chief executive Jim L'Estrange said. "But we are hoping when the players see a player of the stature of Phil stay at the Waratahs, and that passion, that they will want to be with Phil. That goes for young players and old players. He has played a lot of time with the Al Baxters, the [Matt] Dunnings of the world. And we have the young players like the [Dan] Palmers and Fitzys [Damien Fitzpatrick]. They are coming through, and I think they want to rub shoulders with Phil Waugh, too."

Keeping Waugh was far from easy. He received offers from Wales, England, France and Japan that would have netted him a far more money than his new two-year contract that will take him up to and including the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand.

It was not until 9.30pm on Tuesday that L'Estrange felt comfortable the deal was secure - after final talks and email exchanges with Waugh's manager, who was in France. Waugh said he had to take "a fair financial hit to stay", and what clinched the deal was a third-party sponsorship with a group of investors who wanted him to remain with NSW.

He said that component "has been a significant difference between me going and staying. It was a matter of closing the gap a little ? but I still believe I have a lot to offer Australian rugby." Waugh reiterated his love of the Waratahs, his passion to lead them to an elusive title and his continuing Wallabies ambitions.

"In rugby you have to have a passion for who you are playing for. I have a clear passion for not only playing here at NSW and at the Wallabies [but] also at Sydney University," Waugh said. "It would have to be a significant amount of money to throw that away and play somewhere else."

Waugh is not just focused on the Tahs. His Wallabies dreams are still very much alive, and he wants to reclaim the No.7 jersey from incumbent George Smith.

"I do believe I have my best football in front of me. This is not a financial decision. Most importantly it is about here at the Waratahs, trying to achieve what we have been trying to achieve for a long time in winning a Super 14 title. Also, the allure of winning the Bledisloe Cup back, being involved in the 2011 World Cup, and endeavouring to win it."

A couple of points,

1 No mention of Elsom, so the Qld rumours appear to be acurate
2 Vickerman would be wonderful
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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naza said:
Next year's the year, Tah fans !!
For what, pray tell? Is Mitchell the messiah? He might teach the others about hair product and how not to tackle...
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
The bombs are going to rain on the Tahs back three in torrential proportions. Will they improve with the extra practice?
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
No. Mitchell's move would instantly improve the average catching skill of the Force.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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A bit of trivia from this weeks ruggamatrix podcat.

Apparently Lachie Turner was written off as not up to senior Aus rugby by the ARU talent identification group very early in his carreer. :eek:
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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How early in his career?

At school? In 2005 he was the Newington captain and made Oz Schools. He was a standout.

Maybe early in his school days.
 

Lindommer

Steve Williams (59)
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Lee Grant said:
How early in his career? At school?

Now I remember: there were a few NSWRU alickadoos hanging around Somerville Oval at Epping sometime in the early 2000s. They muttered something about "that blonde skinny kid better put on some weight or learn how to tackle" before they buggered off. Obviously Lachie's card was left in the not-good-enough pile from that day. ::) ::) ::)
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Lee Grant said:
How early in his career?

At school? In 2005 he was the Newington captain and made Oz Schools. He was a standout.

Maybe early in his school days.

I appears to have been early in his pro career
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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I remember I wrote a little bit on PR after watching him play in an Oz Schoolboys test that wasn't overly critical but not overly glowing. A dropped a fair of ball from KB (Kurtley Beale) coming into the line (from fullback I think). :turner:

Do you think that is what Bronc and others were referring to?
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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From re-listening on the my ipod

Kiss, When brought into Tahs doubts from ARU
Link, Had forgotten that the ARU talent guys questioned the Tahs for signing him
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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From Foxsports

Meanwhile, Western Force is looking at using its second import vacancy to recruit a hooker after Australia under-20s captain Damien Fitzpatrick's decision to remain with the Waratahs.

Force have to replace retired Wallabies hooker Tai McIsaac. The Perth team has two hookers on its list, Luke Holmes and Ben Whitaker, but they are inexperienced. Former Springboks five-eighth Andre Pretorius has been signed as the club's marquee import, but an emerging foreign player who has the potential to be eligible for the Wallabies can still be recruited.

"We are in the market for a hooker and a winger and maybe a back-up lock," Force chief executive Vern Reid said.

Elsewhere, Brumbies backrower Julian Salvi and Waratahs outside back Matt Carraro have joined English club Bath.
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
NTA said:
Lindommer said:
there were a few NSWRU alickadoos

Mystery solved - these are the same people who let so much talent slip through in those days.

You are playing off the bench in Subbies 2nds. Time to let go of the bitterness Nick.
 

eddo

Larry Dwyer (12)
Geeze,.. do you think the tahs signing on Mitchell looks suspicious now? Details of these dark days are gonna make a three part DVD some day. I wonder how long the tahs deliberated on trying to talk the ARU out of sacking Tuq's.


Do we have an insider into the NSWRU?
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
EDDO,
do you believe that the americans blew up the pentagon themselves during 9/11?,
or that the da vinci code is real?, that aliens land and take off all the time and KRudd covers it up?

Turq has obviously broken a rule, he was on a last chance, they decided enough was enough and cut him loose!
just cos you dont like JON doesnt mean the man doesnt run a mean bussiness!

there is no secret agenda, the tahs signed mitchell when they lost norton-knight, or did norton-knight get hidden in an underground bunker cos he knew to much?

the dust will settle the tahs will survive,

there are a couple of backs off contract att he moment that i wouldnt mind them getting in touch with again though.

JOC (James O'Connor) & barnes in traditional blue would do wonders for my spank bank!
 
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waratahjesus said:
EDDO,
do you believe that the americans blew up the pentagon themselves during 9/11?,
or that the da vinci code is real?, that aliens land and take off all the time and KRudd covers it up?

Turq has obviously broken a rule, he was on a last chance, they decided enough was enough and cut him loose!
just cos you dont like JON doesnt mean the man doesnt run a mean bussiness!

there is no secret agenda, the tahs signed mitchell when they lost norton-knight, or did norton-knight get hidden in an underground bunker cos he knew to much?

the dust will settle the tahs will survive,

there are a couple of backs off contract att he moment that i wouldnt mind them getting in touch with again though.

JOC (James O'Connor) & barnes in traditional blue would do wonders for my spank bank!

typical NSW-man, thrashwanking over poaching Queenslanders rather than develop home grown talent
 
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