Waratahs 2013

The bolded one is surely Carter, assuming one is McKibbin any guesses on the other 3?

I'd guess that BKH will struggle to get another contract.

The other option for the bolded one would be Dean Mumm I guess.

Dan Vickerman would be a fairly obvious one to be in that five and I'd say that probably isn't big news for either party given his likely retirement.

Can't see why Mumm wouldn't be offered a contract, with Vickerman gone we're down to 4 locks and Peterson is not ready and tbh I don't think he will be. Pocock is off contract, maybe a seven has to go to make way for him.

There is a big question mark under who they will recruit to fill the void left by the 5 departing players. The talent is spread pretty thin across the five franchises at the moment.

Can LG or another member shed some light on some talented up-and-comers?

Also talk of raising the squads to 40, it's already shown what a joke 30 is, the Tahs don't have anyone left in the 30.

I would hope for late sanity and cutting Elsom & Vickerman as neither have or are likely to play much or any role in the Tahs on the field. Cutting both would free up some funds to invest in some youth. The hate for TC is rediculous. Any good side needs strong consistant performers to go along with the stars and do the basics well. Carter provides great depth for the squad and is totally reliable. Without him the squad is very thin depth wise IMO bearing in mind I am not and never have been an avid fan of his. That doesnt mean I dont understand his value to the squad. The same can be said for A. Faingaa, Fairbanks et al

Definitely not Hangers, he just got the captaincy..

He may be the captain but he didn't make the leadership group. I reckon they'll chop him and he can continue captaining from Japan or France via Skype.

I can only see them getting rid of Mumm if they have someone else in mind to sign. I wonder if any locks are off contract at the end of 2012? Hugh Pyle would be awesome, Peter Kimlin or Sam Wykes would be reasonable.

Elsom signed more than a one year contract didn't he, so he will still be here for 2013.

If that insider feeding tidbits of information to Grumbles is the tail end of a bull then you might be on to something.

Could this be the Tahs cutting the cord with Uni?

I was at Tah HQ this arvo and saw Mick Foley. Said hi, he patted me on the shoulder and said hi back.

Does anyone actually know any contract lengths for the Tahs?

Rocky signed for 2
Sarel signed for 2

Who else?

With the recent introduction of a salary cap, reduced squad numbers and a cut in the number of ARU top-ups offered, I jut can't see increasing squads to 40 being within the ARU's current policies.