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Wallabies v Pumas, Bankwest (Parra), Sat 5th December

PhilClinton

John Hipwell (52)
Matt Burke: tHe WaLLaBiEs ShOuLd HaVe ScOrED mOrE pOiNtS - yes mate good assessment, can they borrow Chris Latham’s old gloves so someone can actually catch a farking ball and put a roof over the stadium too
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
I thought Philips showed he was one of the most consistent players this test series with another generally good game.

Tupou made the difference coming on for me..and probably reason we ended up with a draw and not a loss at least.


Philips wasn't great tonight, giving away penalties. Still one of our better players and finds of the season.
 
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Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
If somebody told me we would play two tests against Argentina and not get one win before the start of the tournament I would wonder what they are taking....
 
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Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
So Hodge ain't a 15.
Maybe he needs to go to 12 and stay there.

12 too crowded - least likely spot needed. Sadly I think he is destined to be our wonderful utility player from the bench and start the odd game when lots of injuries like this test series. Credit to him though as to be able to play all positions bar halfback shows talented football - unfortunately just not showing a rockstart in one key position to nail down regular starting spot.
 

PhilClinton

John Hipwell (52)
I will say, the Pumas showed the benefits of spending a long time together as a team. They looked the most organised of the three teams. Trusted each other totally and their defensive line was unreal.

The Wallabies problem spend what, 4 weeks max as a complete squad before their first test each year? Maybe that needs to be looked at.
 

tragic

John Solomon (38)
The only good thing to come out of that game is the realisation that if you take a dive you’ll go off for a 10min HIA.
Swan dives are a blight on the game. And the argies are experts.
Shame because it detracts from their physicality and the positive aspects of their game.
 

Tomikin

Simon Poidevin (60)
Positives... Scrum think was good all match and around the park.. Hunter / Wright looked good.. Valentini looked great coming on at 8... Wilson looked a little flat after a big season..
 

TSR

Mark Ella (57)
Holy cow - in what might be the rugby highlight of the night, Jake the Muss is playing Eddie Jones in some docu-drama on WIN.
 

Up the Guts

Steve Williams (59)
Thought Valetini was very strong ball in hand when he got his chance. Ned and Simmo play their roles as lineout jumping ruck monkeys but I don't think you can carry two in the side. Looking forward to seeing Trevor Hosea start next year who carries very impressively.

Pleased with Philip and Wilson. Matt has been awesome all year and we should look to work out a way to get him playing next year. Harry's played so much footy this year, I think it would really be in his interests and the interests of Australian Rugby (maybe not in the interests of the Reds) to manage his workload at the beginning of next year. At 21, I feel there's room for him to put on a bit of hard muscle and some extended time in the gym in the preseason could take him to the next level.

Can't complain about the front-row. AAA is damn near world class but I think Rennie just has to start Tupou and pull him only when he's cooked, he's just too good. Telling him he only has the first 40 to play just makes him too aggressive trying to expend himself completely in the first half.

Tough night for the backs all round, although T Wizzie is outstanding and should be fullback long-term. I also don't think I've ever seen a player develop as quickly as Paisami. JOC (James O'Connor) was a bit one out, he and the team have really missed To'omua.

A bit of a 'mare for JP but I'm not going to cast him out after that. Huge year emotionally for him with the passing of his father and everything else going on. A lot for someone who was born this century to deal with, he looked spent. We'll see how he goes for the Reds next year at 13 but I'm not against starting him on the wing with Hunter at 13 and To'omua at 12 next year. Should also add that I don't really get around the "he's bought into his own hype, he thinks he can do everything himself," comments. He seems, and from all reports, is a very humble kid and we don't know what he's been instructed to do by the coaching staff RE kicking in behind etc. It's most likely something he's been told to do.
 

molman

Peter Johnson (47)
I will say, the Pumas showed the benefits of spending a long time together as a team. They looked the most organised of the three teams. Trusted each other totally and their defensive line was unreal.

The Wallabies problem spend what, 4 weeks max as a complete squad before their first test each year? Maybe that needs to be looked at.

How long have the Wallabies been tied up together now? surely the Argentinians haven't had longer together?.. They couldn't even train as a complete unit at first with the Euro players in a seperate bubble so I'm not sure the benefit you are proposing ever existed for them in comparison to the All Blacks / Wallabies.
 

Up the Guts

Steve Williams (59)
How long have the Wallabies been tied up together now? surely the Argentinians haven't had longer together?.. They couldn't even train as a complete unit at first with the Euro players in a seperate bubble so I'm not sure the benefit you are proposing ever existed for them in comparison to the All Blacks / Wallabies.
Big thing for me is the Argentinians know their game. We're still looking for ours.
 
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