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Round 5 : Reds v Force, Suncorp Stadium, 20 March 6.45

Adam84

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Nice to hear Brad Thorn acknowledge the contribution of journalist Wayne Smith to Australian rugby. Wayne started covering rugby in 1971 - and incredible innings. Sadly with the increasing prevalence of Social/online media I’m not sure we’re going to see many guys like his survive so long in the industry. I hope I’m wrong.

Well done Wayne.

It’s a real shame, he was really the last bastion of quality rugby union journalism in the News Corp empire.
Besides that Christy Doran has just picked up a new role with Foxsports, but thats about it.
 

PhilClinton

Geoff Shaw (53)
Force played smart footy by kicking penalties every time they were close, but didn’t really play much attack that looked like piercing the Reds and setting themselves up close to the line.

McIntyre’s criticisms from his time at the Reds remain, he’s a solid player but doesn’t create enough opportunities in attack. At least his boot has improved to make him a valuable goal kicker.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Few supporters of other franchises throwing barbs at the Reds because they’re undefeated. Force are grifters who are good at staying in the contest but pretty clear that Reds were the superior outfit.

Surprised people are talking about TK when I’ve hardly seen a mention of Paisami who was one of the best to take the field. Lock him in for the Wallabies again. Vunivalu will be a successful convert, wouldn’t surprise me to see him capped this year although there’s a lot of talent on the wing coming through.

I only covered the Force players who impressed. Paisami was the best back on the field by some way.
 

PhilClinton

Geoff Shaw (53)
It’s a real shame, he was really the last bastion of quality rugby union journalism in the News Corp empire.
Besides that Christy Doran has just picked up a new role with Foxsports, but thats about it.

On a similar note but not the same track, Michael Atkinson, Channel 9 reporter/presenter is a former Reds team manager from the McKenzie era and does some great stuff on socials following the Reds around to their various junior clubs, regional trips etc. He’s also on the GEM broadcasts.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Paisami has the Wallaby No 12 wrapped up. Don't think we'll see him at 13 any time soon.

McReight is clearly our best No 7, and should take the Wallaby 7 jersey from MH.

JOC (James O'Connor) again led the team around the park like a true champion. Maybe not a classical No 10, but a true champion in whatever position he plays. Seems to be getting better too.

LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) is a penalty magnet. Not that he seems to do the wrong thing deliberately, but just doesn't seem to have good situation awareness. Together with Jack Maddocks, these two are the biggest disappointments so far in the race for Wallaby jerseys.

Nice to see the heat from other franchise fans moving off the Brumbies and on to the Reds.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
On a similar note but not the same track, Michael Atkinson, Channel 9 reporter/presenter is a former Reds team manager from the McKenzie era and does some great stuff on socials following the Reds around to their various junior clubs, regional trips etc. He’s also on the GEM broadcasts.

also a pretty handy GPS lower grader
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Paisami has the Wallaby No 12 wrapped up. Don't think we'll see him at 13 any time soon.

McReight is clearly our best No 7, and should take the Wallaby 7 jersey from MH.
You can't have come to that conclusion based on this match BR? One of your biggest criticisms of Hooper over the years is his lack of impact around the breakdown. McReight had next to none last night.

That said i am keen to see what he can do in a Wallabies jersey too.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I thought Robertson, TK and Stander put their hands up for a Wallabies squad spot. Timani looked promising too.

Vunivalu is coming along well, he seems to be settling in really well. As his confidence improves, I reckon he will demand selection.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Paisami has the Wallaby No 12 wrapped up. Don't think we'll see him at 13 any time soon.

McReight is clearly our best No 7, and should take the Wallaby 7 jersey from MH.
McReight wasn't particularly great last night?

That said i am keen to see what he can do in a Wallabies jersey too.
 

TSR

Mark Ella (57)
Yes - and yet I’m pretty sure at least one poster thought he was clearly better than Wilson.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
I thought he had just with my eyeballs mostly because Wilson RM 10, Stander RM 37. Didn't pick up on the missed tackles.

10 run meters isn't anything to write home about for a number 8.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Another interesting stat is that the Reds front row (including bench) conceded 9 penalties between them.
 

TSR

Mark Ella (57)
I thought he had just with my eyeballs mostly because Wilson RM 10, Stander RM 37. Didn't pick up on the missed tackles.

10 run meters isn't anything to write home about for a number 8.
It is fine when you consider those runs are made in heavy traffic, and he regularly set up gains on the same or next phase through either creating quick, front foot ruck ball or a great offload.

Reflecting back on the last couple of pages I note you didn’t rate any of the Qld Backrow. That’s fine - it’s a forum page. Your opinion is as valid as mine is. But I think you were watching with your eyes closed, for what it’s worth. Or I just don’t know what you expect from a modern backrower.

And yes, I think you were wrong about ASY (Angus Scott-Young) too. His work in defence and at the breakdown was excellent. I’d love him to make a few more yards in his carry’s and I don’t personally have confidence his game will translate at test level, but in current form as part of the Reds backrow I wouldn’t trade him for any other 6, including Valetini.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Well, for example, I'd expect my number 8 to average more post contact metres than Wilson did. I don't buy the 'it was in traffic' shit. Think about how good the Reds defense was and Stander still managed 37 metres. Given Wilson is to be the next Wallaby 8 for a decade I want to see more.

Tackling lots is great too. And they defended really well. I didn't think any of them were exceptional in any of their other responsibilities, though.

I actually thought the packs were quite evenly matched. The main difference was penetration in the backs. And i think the stats support that. The Force made the Reds tackle a lot, but fuck they wern't making them hard to make. Where as the Force had to try and tackle Paisami, Petaia and Vunivalu.

Edit: and it wasn't like McIntyre was about to put anyone into any holes.
 
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