League Targets

[PhilClinton]

‘Can do both’ and ‘will do both’ aren’t the same thing.

20 years of ‘not doing both’ is what got us to this position.

Yep I don’t disagree but I also don’t see another solution?

I can’t see a sustainable scenario with rugby fans and casual fans (who fill the stadiums) are happy to divert all funding to development pathways and lose games for another 10 years in the hope that we can become good again.

I’m sure RA will be thinking that might work, the shining light of a home RWC being enough of an incentive to keep fans on the hook whilst they dig us out of this hole. But it’s a farking deep hole.

 

[Adam84]

I can’t see a sustainable scenario with rugby fans and casual fans (who fill the stadiums) are happy to divert all funding to development pathways and lose games for another 10 years in the hope that we can become good again.

no one suggested that.

 

[PhilClinton]

no one suggested that.

Not explicitly.

But majority of fans asking for money to be cutoff from league recruitment and diverted to development are essentially asking for that. We don’t have enough money to do both well, as we’ve seen over the years.

I know I’m not offering any answers for the longer viability of the game. I’m sitting in the camp that we need wins now and whatever that takes.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

It’s a complete case by case issue though. The money used for some of these individuals is not available for junior development. I can’t explain what motivates some of these ‘benefactors’ but it would be great to use their interest in the current elite level and RA spend their dollars on retention of the States academies and growth of Juniors.

Personally I’d love to see RA take a hit and subsidise junior regos around the country as much as they can. Life is expensive right now and if you have a few kids Rugby should make itself accessible to all.

 

[wamberal99]

Buildcorp used to put a lot of money into the game, selectively. Not sure if they still do.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Without them I don’t think we would even have a Women’s 15s side. They do a lot besides Sydney Uni.

 

[Members Section]

Buildcorp used to put a lot of money into the game, selectively. Not sure if they still do.

Some deal with Universities across the eastern states with construction degrees. Sydney uni/UQ/Melbourne uni all have buildcorp across the front of their jerseys

 

[NoName]

Sure….but we’ve now been using this same excuse for 20 years now to justify recruiting big names over investing in actual pathways.

It’s a tone deaf move by Rugby Australia given the current public sentiment; rugby fans are looking for a reason to support the game and find hope in its future, offering a contract to an NRL convert like Angus Crichton isn’t the news rugby fans in this country were looking for.

But there's also Phil Waugh's Old Boys game day and sausage sizzle to reinvigorate the grass roots. Surely that's worth something too.

 

[Adam84]

Buildcorp used to put a lot of money into the game, selectively. Not sure if they still do.

Loads. Besides the funding for Womens rugby and the Wallaroos. They also sponsor the Reds Academy and were the builder for the NRTC at Ballymore

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Yeah, Buildcorp and the Sukkar family have spent what would have to be in the Millions on Rugby in Australia over a long time.

Its returned in the development of many grounds.

 

[Adam84]

Not explicitly.

But majority of fans asking for money to be cutoff from league recruitment and diverted to development are essentially asking for that. We don’t have enough money to do both well, as we’ve seen over the years.

No not really. questioning the spending of $500k-$800k on guys like Crichton doesn’t equate to demanding that RA “divert all funding to grassroots”.

I agree with Raelene it’s a case by case scenario, I see merits in JS, but I still think the timing of the Crichton offer is tone deaf and lose-lose for RA given current public and union sentiment.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

No not really. questioning the spending of $500k-$800k on guys like Crichton doesn’t equate to demanding that Rugby Australia “divert all funding to grassroots”.

I agree with Raelene it’s a case by case scenario, I see merits in JS, but I still think the timing of the Crichton offer is tone deaf and lose-lose for Rugby Australia given current public and union sentiment.

This is very accurate. I know it’s impossible when dealing with player agents and multiple NRL/Super Clubs but it would have been good to have this come out towards the end of the WC with the Wobs not involved.

Start to spin it as a new era blah blah blah we’re making moves.

 

[KOB1987]

Hopefully one of these benefactors has enough money to get Nathan Cleary. He’s properly the answer to our #10 issues. Bring his old man into the fold too.

 

[SouthernX]

What a performance by Cleary. 3 peat he probably wants a new challenge

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Whatever he wants. Can Twiggy just give him half of WA?

Wouldn’t mind Ezra Mam in a 12 jersey either.

Honestly, what a game of footy that was.

 

[RebelYell]

I agree with Raelene

This triggers me. Can we pls go with 'I agree with the Ghost Of'...

 

[Goosestep]

Whatever he wants. Can Twiggy just give him half of WA?

Wouldn’t mind Ezra Mam in a 12 jersey either.

Honestly, what a game of footy that was.

What a performance by Cleary. 3 peat he probably wants a new challenge

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lol

 

[Derpus]

Whatever he wants. Can Twiggy just give him half of WA?

Wouldn’t mind Ezra Mam in a 12 jersey either.

Honestly, what a game of footy that was.

Bloke is incredible. I doubt he could transition to rugby flyhalf and maintain his standard but fuck, if we are gunna blow a fat load on a leaguie might as well be the best one.

 

[Pfitzy]

Cleary would be as good an investment as anyone else i.e. no cure for what ails us.

Probably too old to make the switch into a playmaking role, but helluva player.

 

[footy1>31]

Cleary gets bored and decides to emulate his hero Dan carter and build a different legacy saving the code here. And does so by saying I’ll only come if the players outside me are Liam Martin and Stephen Crichton, give them all the lithium in WA twig.