Concussions and Protecting Our Players
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Rocky Elsom (76)
Former NRL player Kevin Proctor signed up for some brain damage in an event in Dubai.
PhilClinton
Mark Ella (57)
They've obviously still got some serious sponsorship money - $200k prize to the winner of that 'event' in Dubai.
I wonder what they paid Jordan Simi and Proctor to rock up.
I wonder what they paid Jordan Simi and Proctor to rock up.
Strewthcobber
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
So putting aside the significant foul play aspect, where's poor Lynagh at now?
By my count, that's three confirmed failed HiAs, another where he apparently passed HIA2 and 3 but didn't play the next week, and other significant head impacts like that one in Test 1 that didn't trigger an HOA. There was also at least one HIA in 2023
That's starting to get pretty scary.
I'm sure he is getting the best medical assessment, but here's the Combat Sports Board of Victoria guidelines.
By my count, that's three confirmed failed HiAs, another where he apparently passed HIA2 and 3 but didn't play the next week, and other significant head impacts like that one in Test 1 that didn't trigger an HOA. There was also at least one HIA in 2023
That's starting to get pretty scary.
I'm sure he is getting the best medical assessment, but here's the Combat Sports Board of Victoria guidelines.
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John Eales (66)
He has 2 weeks from now and he wasn’t visibly stuffed from it from a viewers perspective.
It was also a big dirty shot that got him and would have got anyone. Not an innocuous knock which is when alarm bells start.
If he picked up 2-3 in the next 12 months you can see an issue but right now I think he’s paying the price for being small and players eyes light up at the chance to wallop him unfortunately. I know it wouldn’t fix it but he could do with 4-6kg on the frame to just seem a bit sturdier. I would also tell him to stick his elbow up next time. Someone want to hit you they may as well get a scar for it.
It was also a big dirty shot that got him and would have got anyone. Not an innocuous knock which is when alarm bells start.
If he picked up 2-3 in the next 12 months you can see an issue but right now I think he’s paying the price for being small and players eyes light up at the chance to wallop him unfortunately. I know it wouldn’t fix it but he could do with 4-6kg on the frame to just seem a bit sturdier. I would also tell him to stick his elbow up next time. Someone want to hit you they may as well get a scar for it.
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John Hipwell (52)
I think the sad reality is that the Reds need to prepare to lose him for significant amounts of time through the season, or permanently.
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
That’s a good point. He will start to have longer lay offs. Bit of a disaster in the length of Super Rugby if you lose a 10 for a 3-4 rounds.
Hypothetical anyway and we all hope it won’t eventuate.
Hypothetical anyway and we all hope it won’t eventuate.
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John Hipwell (52)
Does anyone know if many rugby players use smelling salts?
This seems like a good initiative by the NFL, especially if it can mask concussions.
I cannot recall seeing a rugby player using smelling salts on camera like NFL players do, but I can only assume that they may be used for the same potential benefit.
This seems like a good initiative by the NFL, especially if it can mask concussions.
I cannot recall seeing a rugby player using smelling salts on camera like NFL players do, but I can only assume that they may be used for the same potential benefit.
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Darby Loudon (17)
Funny vision of the Lions using it in the changerooms!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMf47AhNxga/?igsh=MjV3Nm42dGZhM3I=
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Mark Ella (57)
the NFL backed up a bit on this stance as they’ve just banned teams from providing them to their players.
players are able to purchase and smell their own salts during games.
The Ghost of Raelene
John Eales (66)
Absolutely heaps of them.
A lot stems from Josh Allen in the NFL last year being rocked and getting the salts and coming back into a game he really shouldn’t of.
The stuff works. It’s god damn Gorilla piss. Leaves you stunned in its own way though
A lot stems from Josh Allen in the NFL last year being rocked and getting the salts and coming back into a game he really shouldn’t of.
The stuff works. It’s god damn Gorilla piss. Leaves you stunned in its own way though
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Mark Ella (57)
Yeh funnily enough in games like rugby, the reaction you get from the salts I don't think it's very conducive to ongoing aerobic activity. It can leave you feeling like a space cadet afterwards.
In American football where it's largely based around explosiveness and short sharp bursts of energy, giving yourself a hit and then going out for the play makes more sense.
In American football where it's largely based around explosiveness and short sharp bursts of energy, giving yourself a hit and then going out for the play makes more sense.
I think for a lot of them in the NFL it is also just a habit.
Whether or not it's actually giving them a performance boost is questionable but they've been using it for so long that they don't want to not use it.
The NFLPA is also a bit of a joke. They have done a terrible job fighting for players rights in terms of contracts and conditions but making sure players can still use smelling salts/ammonia is the hill they are willing to die on.
Whether or not it's actually giving them a performance boost is questionable but they've been using it for so long that they don't want to not use it.
The NFLPA is also a bit of a joke. They have done a terrible job fighting for players rights in terms of contracts and conditions but making sure players can still use smelling salts/ammonia is the hill they are willing to die on.