Wallabies v Italy - 9 November

[rugbyAU]

we need to play our full strength side against everyone now

 

[Where's the beef]

not good enough is an understatement, and the fact thats the first time he's said that is poor considering our performances under him

So we may as well go back to eddie accountability. You guys are just soft and crap. Don't see Les saying that Either.

Eddie broke the team morale, He too suffered a big run of injuries but the damage was in the the treatment of the players.

I am not saying that I agree with every selection Joe has made, but, I do think he is in the trench with the team and fighting hard to finish what has been a very very long year.

Look at the change he has been through:

1. Noah Neck
2. Lynagh
3. Porecki (retired due to repeat serious injury)
4. Wright ACL
5. Skelton (Rule 9)
6. Gleeson Injury and went overseas
7. Tizarno PCL or MCL
8. Donaldson Ulductor
9. Ikitau Gash
10. Jorgenson Flu and there was something else
11. Tate Hammi
12 Pietch Jaw
13 Slipper Retirement
14. Bobby V for much of the year.

And that is just without thinking about it. There were more. It would be over a team. And, we just don't have that much depth.

Put another way, How many of the starting 15, would have been picked over the Italian starting team. Not to many I would suggest.

 

[rugbyAU]

This constant talk on Stan about 15 tests being an excuse is ridiculous, our Super Rugby teams play 14 games and only one made a SF, and we've rested/rotated players and had lots of injuries

 

[Major Tom]

The U20s and U18 are my teams from now on.

 

[Where's the beef]

This constant talk on Stan about 15 tests being an excuse is ridiculous, our Super Rugby teams play 14 games and only one made a SF, and we've rested/rotated players and had lots of injuries

Disagree, The standard per team is not as high so the lack of depth is not as highlighted. Its there, but not as significant.

I don't know about the 15 tests or not, what I do know is that we seem to suffer alot of injuries at the international level and the cattle underneath is not quite as strong and the margins for winning and losing are small.

 

[Pfitzy]

Rinse, repeat, etc

 

[A mutterer]

Every other teams coaching strategy against us "look just kick it really high and contest and then make a mess of the breakdown"

 

[Yoda]

This constant talk on Stan about 15 tests being an excuse is ridiculous, our Super Rugby teams play 14 games and only one made a SF, and we've rested/rotated players and had lots of injuries

Stan commentary is just mindless filling airtime fluff.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Wobs literally made twice as many passes, twice as many carries and made twice the post-contact metres.

Unfortunately we gave away twice the penalties (just about).

Skipper Wilson giving three away by himself, after a very big shift. Touched the ball 25 times with 8 tackles.

I'm starting to wonder if our game plan of kicking first, especially early in a game, is leading to the penalty count going against the Wallabies. It's probably true that defences are penalised more than sides in possession. We have been heavily penalised in first halves when we constantly kick possession away in the first half of games,

 

[Adam84]

Well that was ordinary.. first 15 minutes was just a series of mistakes and errors from Australia.
Some pretty dumb rugby done by a few players at times.

 

[Where's the beef]

Stan commentary is just mindless filling airtime fluff.

Morgs is the only one who makes sense. Horan and Hooper Do not. Thankfully Hoops was not there today.

 

[Where's the beef]

We are 7th in the rankings and they are 10th with a home ground advantage. It’s the same spread in the rankings as the South Africa v France game in progress right now. We just need to accept where we are in the rugby world. We do get a shot at redemption next week v Ireland, IMO they are on the slide as well and are vulnerable.

Would love to say yep, but.........Nahhhhhhh

 

[KOB1987]

I think there is some truth in the comment that they are 15 games into an arduous test schedule and are feeling the pinch, plus there is a whole team of ‘unavailables’. Pfitzy just made a comment on another thread that our second tier is not preparing these guys for test rugby - therein lies the real problem and it underpins my earlier comment that we would go better if our top 50 players were farmed out to European clubs and we select them from there. That’s obviously not realistic but I have no doubt it would work. We have the right cattle but the wrong program for them.

 

[todd4]

Kicking out on the full 3 times was poor.

I'm sure I counted at least 4 times. C. Gordon J. Gordon Potter & JAS. Pretty woeful execution at this level.

 

[Trev]

Disappointing game. When your wife says after we watched the game, “are you crying?” Then proceeded to say, “we’ve been married over 40 years and that’s a first”. I actually wasn’t crying but my eyes were watering up. I thought we were on an upward trajectory and should have had this one in the bag. Sometimes there are a few hurdles to success and let this be a reflection point. Some positives in the game, Carter G and his attacking abilities. A real rugby mind. Also McReight and his timely defence, Tupou looking the best in a while. Scrum was decent and the line out was straight.

 

[fatprop]

Well, that just reminded us about the massive chasm in ability between our 1st 15 and the rest

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Look back on the past couple years and we aren’t on an upward trajectory but just back to status quo following Eddie’s dumpster fire which went lower than normal so it seems better.

There’s been a couple great wins like England at Twicks last year, Ellis Park but they can’t beat NZ, Ireland handle Aus, Scotland handle Aus, Fiji and Japan almost beat the Wallabies as well.

 

[Tomikin]

Well That didn't go to plan, Good I though Carter was alright, Hooper and McReight good.

We really miss Wright, White, Skelton, Slipper, Ikitua, Tate, and a firing Bobby V.

Oh well, well done Italy, on to next week...lets go.

 

[Red Runner]

Every other teams coaching strategy against us "look just kick it really high and contest and then make a mess of the breakdown"

or run it at our outside backs because they’ll just run alongside us and give us space.

 

[Brumby Runner]

54mins, after Gordon goes off.
Wilson gives a dumb maul penalty away, then Nongorr gives a dumber maul penalty away, then JAS gets a yellow card as the try is scored.

After the kickoff, Wobs attack going nowhere, Toole gets nowhere near recovering a box kick, with 14 men, the backs get sucked in and Frost limping back can't cover the blind side. Italy's half makes no mistake, and then 30s later, Ioane runs around Potter.

6 mins, 14 points, game gone. Coach killers

You missed the aimless box kick by Jake Gordon that gifted possession back to Italy, and from which they scored that try a few phases later. Prior to that, the Wallabies had been going nowhere with ball in hand but they had the ball and didn't look like losing it until that brainless kick.