Wallabies 31 Man Squad

[Gnostic]

Based on the BaaBaa game last night 10 is a challenging position for the Lions as well.

Only if Sexton gets injured. I never understood the selection of Farrell and last night didn't change my view.

 

[Blue]

I rate McCalman this season over that marsh mellow Palu and even Dennis to a lesser extent. In fact I rate all of the force loose forwards over any of those tahs mentioned.

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Are you sure you're not Hoopy Loopy? Could have sworn...McCalman surely not.

 

[Gnostic]

The only possible logic I can see behind the Phipps selection would be Deans wanting a sniping scrum half to put on against tired legs. Even this doesn't make sense to me though. Why not put on a scrumhalf who can kick the fucking skin off the ball and make their tired piggies run all over town in the last bit of the game or just plain pin them in their own 22?

I'm getting a bit tired of Deans selecting players in positions for which they cannot even perform the core duties well. 9s with a shit pass, hookers that can't throw, locks who can't jump well/at all..maybe that is just me though.

I have to ask the question USAR - if Deans was after a running 9 he need only look at which 9 had scored the most tries. That is probably the best indicator which 9 takes the best options with the ball in hand. Just running it doesn't make a good runner.

I think the selection of Phipps and the more than likely final selection of Burgess (after the ARU have the Pravda unit do their pre-selection manipulation and ground work) is not about attack at all. It is in keeping with the theme of minimising risk and ensuring a very tight defence. The only issue for Deans there is that they may well be able to minimise the points that the Lions can score against the Wallabies, but they will sure as shit minimise the points the Wallabies score as well. It all becomes a race to the bottom then, are the Wallabies points minimised by impotent attack patterns more than the strong defence. I think a review of the last RWC will provide the answer to that, when playing a decent side on their game.

 

[gold heart]

Only if Sexton gets injured. I never understood the selection of Farrell and last night didn't change my view.

Agreed .... Feral is an immensely unlikable individual, he has an o'money hair cut and sook face dial....plus having daddy on the coaching staff does not help...I hope he plays in the first test and gets bitch slapped for his petulance by mmm... That's my fantasy but I know sexton will be first choice and mmm is still not in our squad

 

[Sully]

Laughing and then to top it all off using bent refs to pip us at the post in every tight game.

BRING on the Link ERA!

Okay consider this your very last warning on the Ref bashing!

 

[Hoolly Doolly]

Are you sure you're not Hoopy Loopy? Could have sworn.McCalman surely not.

Do you have anything relevant to say apart from sledging?

 

[Shiggins]

Yeah, I would rank them:
Genia
White
Burgess
Sheehan or Phipps as the 4th option.

Spot on.

 

[Caputo]

I would like something more left field. Deans to pick an extra 15 to be live training fodder. They could be called into impersonate the Lions in training. Inman makes agood Wales Centre.

Some could be called into the 31 with injuries and this might have them up to speed quicker on Wallaby plays.

The NSW and QLD RL use summer to have a potential/possibles SOI camp.

Deans could use these 15 as that your one injury away from Wallaby selection.

My training squad
Sio
Silvia (Expect Hanson in 31)
Ryan
Pyle
Neville
Alcock
Hodgson
Quirk
White
Tomua
Speight
Godwin
Inman
Kuridrani
Mogg

 

[ChargerWA]

I fell off the Dingo wagon so long ago I can't even get upset by the stupid shit he does these days.

The most surprising thing in this thread is anyone is even surprised he picked Phipps ahead of White.

 

[Gnostic]

He has picked Douglas at least? I don't agree with the selection, I'm just trying to work out what the logic is behind it. These players aren't being picked out of a hat, they are being picked for a reason. Struggling to work out exactly what those reasons are though.

The reason is simple. Have a look at the tactics of the RWC and 2012. Minimise risk and opportunities for the opposition. Think the Waratahs under Hickey and Foley with a few different faces and maybe better fitness (though that has been questionable with injured players selected every year). All those people who have constantly questioned how and why so many Tahs continue to be selected under Deans regardless of what their performance and form was and the Tahs success, well that is it. The Tahs were a side built for the purpose of winning a competition by minimising risk. Funny how the results of the Tahs mirror those of the Wallabies, almost but not quite as their scoring ability is minimised along with minimising opportunity for the opposition.

It is also why Deans MUST have the "X players" on the field because his system does not build anything on its own, it is reactive.

If you look at all the selections Deans has made over the last few years you will see that all his selections are in fact logical and the correct ones with regard to that game plan. My problem is the very same argument I made (and after the changes made by Chieka this year I have been proved right IMO) against the game plan of the Tahs, it will get you close most of the time and quality players with a fierce hunger will time and again get some close thrilling victories, however against quality organised opposition such the ABs or a side which plays with very high intensity (Samoa) or with a high level of technical accuracy (Ireland & Scotland) they will often come up short. Interspesred will be the inexplicable horrendous losses, again just like the Tahs, and that is a factor of defence being so much about attitude, a slight off day when ones game is all about defence will be pretty devastating as their is nothing else to balance the ledger.

 

[Brumby Runner]

I think youre overlooking the fact that Deans obviously thinks Phipps can cover for Ioane on the wing.
This just shows what a farce the "26 man expandable 31 man squad with 1 half" was in the first place.
Deans had doen it again - maybe he saw something in the Lions game last night that caused him to realise "shit - i only picked one 9 in the 26 man squad"

Still wouldn't explain why Phipps was chosen. Inexplicable based on form and skill sets when compared with Nic White. I can't stomach the drivel that comes out of Deans. My guess is that Nic has no show of being in the final 6 despite Deans' statement to that effect.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Still wouldn't explain why Phipps was chosen. Inexplicable based on form and skill sets when compared with Nic White. I can't stomach the drivel that comes out of Deans. My guess is that Nic has no show of being in the final 6 despite Deans' statement to that effect.

All my analysis shows is that whether your a Phipps fan or a White fan or neither Deans has got it all completely arse about.
Something we can all agree upon?

 

[Scythe]

Any thoughts on Foley as an addition to the squad ?

 

[gold heart]

Lets assume that Higgers Ioane etc are not available and based on those who have already been chosen in the squad my run on team at this stage would be;

Robbo
Moore
Slipper
Horwill
Douglass
Mowen
Gill
Palu
Genia
Beale
Falou
Lilo
AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
Cummins
Barnes

The forwards are ok as we have some grunt in the scrum, some runners and 4 jumpers, Mowen to call the lineouts but not a lot of options at THP but I do like Slipper's mobility.....I do not particauly like Barnes and Beale in their due to the many factors that have been raised again and again on this forum, but at the same time I have always called for them to be in there cause I am not sure if we have many alternatives at the moment.

 

[Gnostic]

Swap Beale out for JOC (James O'Connor) and you have it.

The bench is the only real area of debate now. I expect Kepu, S Fainga'a, Alexander (could swap the start with Slipper), MMM (if fit) Dennis (likely to be swapped with Mowen for the start), Hooper, Burgess, Beale

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Lets assume that Higgers Ioane etc are not available and based on those who have already been chosen in the squad my run on team at this stage would be;

Robbo
Moore
Slipper
Horwill
Douglass
Mowen
Gill
Palu
Genia
Beale
Falou
Lilo
AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
Cummins
Barnes

The forwards are ok as we have some grunt in the scrum, some runners and 4 jumpers, Mowen to call the lineouts but not a lot of options at THP but I do like Slipper's mobility...I do not particauly like Barnes and Beale in their due to the many factors that have been raised again and again on this forum, but at the same time I have always called for them to be in there cause I am not sure if we have many alternatives at the moment.

No problems with your team but I think O'Connor will be 10, Barnes will be 12 and KB (Kurtley Beale) 15.
i cant see Folau starting but who knows.

 

[No4918]

I see Dennis getting picked at 6 over Mowen.

 

[gold heart]

No problems with your team but I think O'Connor will be 10, Barnes will be 12 and KB (Kurtley Beale) 15.
i cant see Folau starting but who knows.

yup thats probably the way deans will go since he has already announced o'money bags at 10 - Beale has not stood out at ten with too much crabbing but I still think he is the less shitier of the two

 

[gold heart]

I see Dennis getting picked at 6 over Mowen.

based on what deans wants? or you really think dennis is better? please dont go down the test experienced road

 

[gel]

Any thoughts on Foley as an addition to the squad ?

You mean as a backup lock? Yeah, deans might just be into that.