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Australian Schoolboys & National Championships 2016

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Shane Smeltz

Fred Wood (13)
NSW 2s Liam Rasch won the RUPA (Rugby Union Players Association) award for being the best player in the Final.

The fellow from RUPA said he had won a scholarship worth $2,000 to help fund his way and career in the Australia selections (I presume to help towards the cost of the flights etc. to Samoa and NZ).
Pity he then didn't make any selection.

Liam - take the money and spend it on education, gym membership, new boots, healthy food - and go and play Colts.
You'll still get there, lad.
 

Azzuri

Trevor Allan (34)
The fellow from RUPA said he had won a scholarship worth $2,000 to help fund his way and career in the Australia selections (I presume to help towards the cost of the flights etc. to Samoa and NZ).
Pity he then didn't make any selection.

Liam - take the money and spend it on education, gym membership, new boots, healthy food - and go and play Colts.
You'll still get there, lad.

I couldn't agree more. Liam is a great young talent who will no doubt go on to bigger and better things. He was thoroughly deserving of the RUPA gong for his performance in the final.

To those that got picked, congratulations and hope you get through the rest of the season injury free and make the most of it if it's your last schoolboy rep opportunity. To the shadow players, history favour's a call up. Das Valkyrie is still someway off from warming up her vocal chords, so don't lose hope.

With all the conjecture about selections and bias etc it's worth noting that for those leaving the relativley cloistered confines of schoolboy footy at the end of this year the real start of a rugby career in opens footy begins next year.

Reputations and accolades derived from schoolboy achievements are something to be very proud of but unfortunately won't count for much next year when the 2016 y12 leavers will have to prove they have the minerals to compete in open competitions where scarce sponsorship/Club shekels may be on offer.

As has been noted ad nauseum on this thread the cream will always rise to the top.
 

George Grant

Ward Prentice (10)
Thought Rasch very much deserved player of the match in the final game (RUPA award) closely in pursuit by Silk, Smeallie and Suttor, and Rixon if he had continued playing. Obviously the selectors penciled in a team before the game, because clearly the bulk of the performers of the day weren't selected, nor were the performers by NSW on any day for that mater.


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Tah123

Herbert Moran (7)
All this talk of selections, i would be interested to know how many of this years U20s Aussie squad actually played Aussie Schoolboys back in their day. Is anybody privy to this sort of information? As people have said, the reset button gets pushed on 1 Jan 2017 and the cream rises to the top in club land.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
2016 Finals Day Results
Game 22: NSW I v NSW II (First - Second Playoff)
NSW II 22 (3t, 2c, pen) def NSW I 5 (1t)
H/T NSW II 22 (3t, 2c, pen) def NSW I 5 (1t)

NSW II 22 (14. Rixon 2, 15. McTaggert tries, 14. Rixon con, 22. Harrison con, pen)
NSW I 5 (13. Terry try)
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Pix: ASRU
ASRU Match Report
http://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2016/news/match-repot-nsw-i-v-nsw-ii/


Division I Champions NSW II win the BH 'Jika' Sir Edward Travers Shield.
Division I Runners up NSW I win the Sir Edward 'Weary' Dunlop Shield.

Game 21: Victoria v Combined States (Third - Fourth Playoff)
Combined States 20 (3t 1c 1 pen) def Victoria (2t 2c 1pen)
H/T CS 17 (3t 1c) lead Victoria 10 (1t 1c 1 pen)

Combined States 20 (11. Day, 15. Pellegrini, 11. Day 2 pen, 2 con)
Victoria 17 (15. Donghi, 13. Paisami, 9. Turner 1 pen 2 con)
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Pix: ASRU
ASRU Match Report
http://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2016/news/match-report-victoria-v-combined-states/

Combined States (NSW III :) ) come 3rd in Division I
Victoria come 4th in Division I

Game 20: Queensland I v Queensland II (Fifth - Sixth Playoff)
Qld II 5 (1t) def Qld I 0
H/T Qld II 5 (1t) lead Qld I 0

Qld II 5 (11. Hicks try)
Qld I 0
Q1-v-Q2-1024x417.jpg

Pix: ASRU

ASRU Match Report
http://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2016/news/match-report-qld-i-v-qld-ii/

Queensland II come 5th in Division I and Queensland I come 6th. Possibly the lowest placing that Qld I have ever come, and maybe the first time they have been kept scoreless.

Game 19: ACT v Western Australia (Seventh - Eighth Playoff)
ACT 25 (5t) def Western Australia 0
H/T ACT 15 (3t) lead Western Australia 0

ACT 25 (11. Malisauskas, Osborne, 8. Tai, 7. Gersekowski, 14. Marshall tries)
Western Australia 0

ASRU Match Report
http://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2016/news/match-report-act-v-western-australia/

ACT finish in 7th position, Western Australia finish 8th.

2016 Final Positions
NSW II 1st
NSW I 2nd
Combined States 3rd
Victoria 4th
Qld II 5th
Qld I 6th
ACT 7th
WA 8th

Some Past Numbers for ASRU Div 1 Winners & Runners Up (Up to and incl 2016)
NSW I 20 Gold, 13 Silver
Qld I 14 Gold, 11 Silver (incl 2 G & 5 S as Qld)
NSW II 3 Gold, 8 Silver (G in 1977, 1979, 2016)
ACT 3 Gold, 8 Silver (G in 1978, 1986, 1988)
Qld II 2 Gold, 1 Silver (G in 2010, 2006)
Combined States 0 Gold, 1 Silver (2009 - Last year before Vic and WA joined the big dance in 2010)

This Century only:
NSW I 8 Gold, 5 Silver (G in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015)
Qld I 6 Gold, 4 Silver (G in 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011)
Qld II 2 Gold, 0 Silver (G in 2006. 2010)
NSW II 1 Gold, 6 Silver (G in 2016)
Combined States 0 Gold, 1 Silver (S in 2009)
ACT 0 Gold, 1 Silver (S in 2000)

Longest Dynasty - NSW I - 6 successive titles (1980-1985)

Intra State Finals
2016 NSW II def NSW I
2014 NSW I def NSW II
2013 NSW I def NSW II
2002 NSW I def NSW II
1990 NSW I def NSW II
1983 NSW I def NSW II
1977 NSW II def NSW I

State Selection Whoopsies
2016 NSW II def NSW I (Final) & Qld II def Qld I (5th/6th playoff)
2010 Qld II def NSW II (Final)
2006 Qld II def NSW II (Final)
1977 NSW II def NSW I (Final)
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
2016 ASRU Championships Results Summary:

Monday, 4 July 2016 Match Day 1 Division I Pool Matches
1000 Game 1: Div 1 NSW II 57 def WA 24
1130 Game 2: Div 1 Vic 42 def Qld I 13
1300 Game 3: Div 1 ACT 27 def by NSW I 33
1430 Game 4: Div 1 Qld II 12 def by Combined States 31

Tuesday, 5 July 2016 Match Day 2 Division II Round Robin Matches
1130 Game 5: Div 2 NT 20 def Lloyd McDermott XV 12
1300 Game 6: Div 2 SA 19 def by TAS 24

Wednesday, 6 July 2016 Match Day 3 Division I Pool Matches
1000 Game 7: Div1 NSW I 31 def CS 24
1130 Game 8: Div 1 Qld II 22 def ACT 10
1300 Game 9: Div 1 Qld I 48 def WA 7
1430 Game 10: Div 1 NSW II 18 def Vic 14

Thursday, 7 July 2016 Match Day 4
Division II Round Robin Matches
1200 Game 11: Div 2 SA 0 def by NT 31
1345 Game 13: Div 2 TAS 10 def by Lloyd McDermott XV 12

Division I Pool Matches
1100 Game 12: Div 1 Vic 17 def WA 12
1230 Game 14: Div 1 CS 10 def by ACT 12
1400 Game 15: Div 1 Qld I 19 def NSW II 14
1530 Game 16: Div 1 NSW I 12 def Qld II 0

Pool A Placing
NSW I (14), CS (8), Q2 (5), ACT (5) 4th on countback
Pool B Placing
NSW II (10), Vic (10) (countback), Qld I (9), WA (2)

Friday, 8 July 2016 Match Day 5 Division II Round Robin Matches
1000 Game 17: Div 2 TAS 25 def by NT 31
1130 Game 18: Div 2 SA 10 def by Lloyd McDermott XV 26

Saturday, 9 July 2016 FINALS DAY
0900 Game 19: Division I: ACT 25 def Western Australia 0 (7th/8th)
1015 Game 20: Division I: QLD II 5 def QLD I 0 (5th/6th)
1130 Game 21: Division I: Combined States 20 def Victoria 17 (3rd/4th)
1245 Game 22: Division I: NSW II 22 def NSW I 5 (1st/2nd)

Division II Champions Northern Territory win the Charles Blunt Trophy. Runners Up Lloyd McDermott Indigenous Rugby XV win the Merv Allen Plate.

Division I Champions NSW II win the BH 'Jika' Sir Edward Travers Shield.
Division I Runners up NSW I win the Sir Edward 'Weary' Dunlop Shield.
NSW II Second Row, Liam RASCH was awarded the RUPA award for player of the match in the final.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
2016 Australian Schoolboys Squad
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Pix: ASRU
Prop
Opeti HELU, Newington College, NSW 1 (THP)
Lloyd GORMAN, Brisbane State High School, QLD 1 (LHP)
Laurence TOMINIKO, Keebra Park State High School, QLD 1 (THP)
Thomas ROSS, Darmalan College, ACT

Hooker
Lachlan LONERGAN, Trinity Christian College, ACT
Sean FARRELL, Brisbane Boys’ College, QLD 1

Lock
Esei HAANGANA, St Paul’s Catholic College (NSW), CS
Matthew WILSHIRE, Toowoomba Grammar School, QLD 1
Rory SUTTOR, The Shore School, NSW 2

Loose Forward
Luke GERSEKOWSKI, St Edmund’s College, ACT
Fraser McREIGHT, Brisbane Grammar School, QLD 1

No 8
Sunia FINEFEUIAKI, Marcellin College, VIC
Justin SIKIMETI, St Patrick’s College, QLD 1
Francis SOAKAI-TAI, Erindale College, ACT

Halfback
Ryan LONERGAN, Trinity Christian College, ACT
Joshua VUTA, Somerset College, QLD 2

Flyhalf
Adam DOUEIHI, St Patrick’s College, NSW 1
Isaac LUCAS, St Joseph’s, Gregory Terrace, QLD 1

Centre
Hunter PAISAMI, Pakenham Secondary College, VIC
James ARMSTRONG, Knox Grammar School, NSW 2
Nick WILKINSON, St Joseph’s College, NSW 1

Back 3
Yirribi JAFFER-WILLIAMS, St Joesph’s College, NSW 1
William EADIE, St Joseph’s, Gregory Terrace, QLD 1
Matthew McTAGGART, St Joseph’s College, NSW 2
Luke OSBORNE,The King’s School, NSW 1



Manager: John ROWNES, Knox Grammar School, NSW
Coach: Pat LANGTRY, St Edmund’s College, ACT
Asst Coach: Andrew MOLONEY, ACGS – Churchie, QLD
Asst Coach: Jay TREGONNING, The Illawarra Grammar School, NSW
Asst Manager: John GUY, Hunter Valley Grammar School , NSW
ARU Pathways: Adrian THOMPSON, QLD
Physiotherapist: Tom LOMBARDO, NSW
Strength & Conditioning: Jon ROUSETTOS, QLD


For the Trainspotters:
Team:
Qld I, 8 (finished 6th)
ACT, 5 (finished 7th)
NSW I, 5 (finished 2nd)
NSW II, 3 (Winner)
Victoria, 2 (finished 4th)
Combined States, 1 (finished 3rd)
Qld II, 1 (finished 5th)

Schools:
NSW
St Joseph’s College, Hunters Hill, 3
Knox Grammar School, 1
St Patrick’s College, Strathfield, 1
St Paul’s Catholic College (NSW), 1
Newington College, 1
The King’s School, 1
The Shore School, 1

Qld
St Joseph’s, Gregory Terrace, 2
Brisbane Boys’ College, 1
Brisbane State High School, 1
Brisbane Grammar School, 1
St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe, 1
Keebra Park State High School, 1
Somerset College, 1
Toowoomba Grammar School, 1

ACT
Trinity Christian College, 2
St Edmund’s College, ACT, 1
Darmalan College, 1
Erindale College, 1

Victoria
Marcellin College, Vic, 1
Pakenham Secondary College, 1


State:
Queensland, 9
NSW, 9
ACT, 5
Victoria, 2

School Type:
Private: 21
Public: 4

Source:
http://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2016/news/bmw-australian-schoolboys-tour-samoa-new-zealand/

Note: Position breakdown is my own interpretation.
 

I play wing

Chris McKivat (8)
2016 ASRU Championships Results Summary:
Division I Pool Matches
1100 Game 12: Div 1 Vic 17 def WA 12
1230 Game 14: Div 1 CS 10 def by ACT 12
1400 Game 15: Div 1 Qld I 19 def NSW II 14
1530 Game 16: Div 1 NSW I 12 def Qld II 0
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With all the talk about over selection can we please remember that QLD 1 did actually beat the eventual winners NSW II.
Also I think the selectors would have taken into account the weather conditions (rightly or wrongly).

On another note Queensland uniforms look terrible with a Polo shirt, shorts and a hoodie compared to the other states such NSW.
 

Nusadan

Chilla Wilson (44)
State Selection Whoopsies
2016 NSW II def NSW I (Final) & Qld II def Qld I (5th/6th playoff)
2010 Qld II def NSW II (Final)
2006 Qld II def NSW II (Final)
1977 NSW II def NSW I (Final)

As 1977 was the year of the famous Ella brothers and Oz schoolboys in their tour of the UK, I wonder who were in these two teams that day?

Makes for an interesting read if anyone can help out please.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
2016 ASRU Barbarians
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Pic: ASRU

Prop
Bo ABRA, St Stanislaus’ College, CS (LHP)
Dan MATTHEW, Kariong Mountains High School, NSW 2 (THP)
Tom OSBORNE, St Ignatius’ College, Riverview, NSW 2 (LHP)
Dylan VALENI, Westfields Sports HS, CS (LHP)

Hooker
Matthew FAESSLER, Toowoomba Grammar School, QLD 2
Callum KENT, Camberwell High School, VIC

Lock
Nicholas FROST, Knox Grammar School, NSW 1
Harry WILSON, St Joseph’s, Gregory Terrace, QLD 2

Loose Forward/No 8
Dylan PIETSCH, The King’s School, NSW 1
Charles RORKE, St Ignatius’ College, Riverview, NSW 2
Henry SHARP, Anglican Church Grammar, QLD 1
Tom SERHON, Newington College, CS
Lachlan OSBORNE, Canberra Grammar School, ACT

Halfback
Tyzak JORDAN, Waverley College, NSW 2
Tate McDERMOTT, Sunshine Coast Grammar, QLD 1

Flyhalf
Mackenzie HANSEN, Daramlan College, ACT
Hinkley HALO VAOVASA, Cranbourne Secondary College, VIC

Centre
Matthew ORPEN, The King’s School, CS
Tristan STANGHON, Anglican Church Grammar, QLD 1

Back Three
William HARRISON, Marcellin College, Randwick, NSW 2
Luke RIXON, The Shore School, NSW 2
Ben SIMPSON, Brisbane Boys’ College, QLD 2
Jordan PETAIA, Brisbane State High School, CS


Manager: James TURNER, St Joseph’s Gregory Terrace, QLD
Coach: Carl MARSHALL, Brisbane Grammar School, QLD
Asst Coach: Brad GILL, Newington College, NSW
Physiotherapist: Narelle VERVERKA, NSW

Teams:
NSW II, 6
Combined States, 5
QLD II, 3
QLD I, 3
NSW I, 2
ACT, 2
Victoria, 2


Schools:
Qld
Anglican Church Grammar, 2
Brisbane Boys’ College, 1
Brisbane State High School, 1
St Joseph’s, Gregory Terrace, 1
Sunshine Coast Grammar, 1
Toowoomba Grammar School, 1

NSW
St Ignatius’ College, Riverview, 2
The King’s School, 2
Kariong Mountains High School, 1
Knox Grammar School, 1
Marcellin College, Randwick, 1
Newington College, 1
St Stanislaus’ College, 1
The Shore School, 1
Waverley College, 1
Westfields Sports HS, 1

Victoria
Camberwell High School, 1
Cranbourne Secondary College, 1

ACT
Canberra Grammar School, 1
Daramalan College, 1


State:
NSW, 12
Queensland, 7
ACT, 2
Victoria, 2

School Type:
Private: 18
Public: 5

Source:
http://www.schoolsrugby.com.au/2016/news/bmw-australian-schools-barbarians-play-tonga/

Position guess = my own

Total for 2016 ASRU
Teams
QLD 1, 8 Schoolboys, 3 Barbarians, 11 total
NSW 2, 3 Schoolboys, 6 Barbarians, 9 total
NSW 1, 5 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, 7 total
ACT, 5 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, 7 total
CS, 1 Schoolboys, 5 Barbarians, 6 total
QLD 2, 1 Schoolboys, 3 Barbarians, 4 total
VIC, 2 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, 4 total

Schools
NSW
St Joseph’s College, Hunters Hill, 3 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 3 total
The King’s School, 1 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, 3 total
Knox Grammar School, 1 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 2 total
Newington College, 1 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 2 total
St Ignatius’ College, Riverview, 0 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, 2 total
The Shore School, 1 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 2 total
Kariong Mountains High School, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total
Marcellin College, Randwick, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total
St Patrick’s College, Strathfield, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
St Paul’s Catholic College (NSW), 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
St Stanislaus’ College, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total
Waverley College, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total
Westfields Sports HS, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total

Qld
St Joseph’s, Gregory Terrace, 2 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 3 total
Anglican Church Grammar, 0 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, 2 total
Brisbane Boys’ College, 1 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 2 total
Brisbane Grammar School, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
Brisbane State High School, 1 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 2 total
Toowoomba Grammar School, 1 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 2 total
Keebra Park State High School, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
Somerset College, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
Sunshine Coast Grammar, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total

ACT
Trinity Christian College, 2 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 2 total
Daramalan College, 1 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 2 total
Canberra Grammar School, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total
Erindale College, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
St Edmund’s College, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total

Victoria
Camberwell High School, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total
Cranbourne Secondary College, 0 Schoolboys, 1 Barbarians, 1 total
Marcellin College, Victoria, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total
Pakenham Secondary College, 1 Schoolboys, 0 Barbarians, 1 total


ASRU: 48 Players from 32 Schools (20 "Rugby" Schools, 12 "Non-Rugby" Schools)
Schoolboys: 28 Players from 21 Schools (14 "Rugby" Schools, 7 "Non-Rugby" Schools)
Barbarians: 23 Players from 20 Schools (14 "Rugby" Schools, 6 "Non-Rugby" Schools)


State:
NSW, 9 Schoolboys, 12 Barbarians, Total 21
Queensland, 9 Schoolboys, 7 Barbarians, Total 16
ACT, 5 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, Total 7
Victoria, 2 Schoolboys, 2 Barbarians, Total 4

School Type:
Private: 21 Schoolboys, 18 Barbarians, Total 39
Public: 4 Schoolboys, 5 Barbarians, Total 9
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
39+9=48?

Either way interesting 9 public school kids

And people wonder why Aussie teams in super rugby have won something like 5 games from 80 games, against New Zealand teams in 2016!

Not looking good in lead in to bledisloe

The experts talk about us being able to match the all blacks at school boy level and then it is all downhill

Well the lack of public school kids says it all

Surely the administrators can be more creative on public school pathway

Maybe a start could be to punt pulver ... Couldn't get someone more disconnected
Anyway congrats to all selections and hope they all remain injury free and do Australia proud
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
As 1977 was the year of the famous Ella brothers and Oz schoolboys in their tour of the UK, I wonder who were in these two teams that day?

Makes for an interesting read if anyone can help out please.

1977 NSW I
1. John MATHESON, Pennant Hills HS, CHS
2. Anthony RYAN, St Ignatius' College, AAGPS*
3. Brad ALLAN (CAPT), Ku-ring-gai HS, CHS
4. Michael MAXWELL, Cranbrook, CAS*
5. Warwick MELROSE, Matraville HS, CHS*
6. Ian MILLER, Killarney Heights HS, CHS*
7. Richard VAUGHAN, Knox Grammar School, CAS
8. James McINNERNEY, St Joseph’s College, AAGPS
9. Daryl LESTER, Matraville HS, CHS
10. Michael HAWKER (VC), Shore, AAGPS
11. Peter McPHERSON, Waratah HS, CHS*
12. Lloyd WALKER, Matraville HS, CHS
13. Gary ELLA, Matraville HS, CHS*
14. John MAGUIRE, St Joseph’s College, AAGPS*
15. John RAUCH, Fort St BHS, CHS
16. Dominic VAUGHAN, Marist Bros Hamilton, CCC*
17. David WOODCOCK, Singleton HS, CHS
18. Martin BULL, Balgowlah BHS, CHS
19. Tony MELROSE, Northmead HS, CHS*
20. Mark CAMERON, Shore, AAGPS
Manager: Br. Brian MURPHY, Waverley College,
Coach: Brian PEACE, Ministry of Education,


1977 NSW II
1. John HANCOCK, St Ignatius' College, AAGPS*
2. Edward JONES, Matraville HS, CHS
3. Wayne ERIKSON, Fort St BHS, CHS
4. George GAVALAS, Homebush BHS, CHS*
5. Stephen CUTLER, Knox Grammar School, CAS
6. Paul DELLAMARTA, Matraville HS, CHS
7. Phillip BARLOW, Randwick BHS, CHS
8. Grant MOULD, Matraville HS, CHS
9. Michael EGAN, St Joseph’s College, AAGPS*
10. Mark ELLA, Matraville HS, CHS*
11. Chris REW, The King's School, AAGPS
12. Ian WALTON, Hurlstone Ag College, CHS
13. Matthew STREET, Cranbrook, CAS
14. Phillip TUCK, Knox Grammar School, CAS*
15. Glen ELLA, Matraville HS, CHS*
16. Graham ENDEAN, Epping BHS, CHS
17. John LUANI, Newington College, AAGPS
18. Anthony FLITCROFT, St Joseph’s College, AAGPS
19. Mark MUNRO, Waverley College, CAS
20. Stephen KERR, Balmain HS, CHS*
Manager: Stephen FORTY, Punchbowl HS, CHS
Coach: Earl FLANDERS, Killara HS, CHS

* Australian Schoolboys Rep
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
Contrary to popular belief, the distribution of NZ Schoolboys team across the schools in terms of numbers is not dissimilar to ours, although there are a few more public school players.

Bear in mind that many of the NZ public schools have aggressive Rugby programs like some of our private schools, along with Rugby scholarships being openly advertised, and talent scouting expeditions to the PI.
 

Cash

Sydney Middleton (9)
15mins highlights from the championship final, NSW v NSW. My footage, best viewed in HD
Baffled as to how the flick pass in the first try somehow landed in Rixon's arms - it looked as though it was going into orbit.
 

RugbyPurist

Bob McCowan (2)
39+9=48?

Either way interesting 9 public school kids

And people wonder why Aussie teams in super rugby have won something like 5 games from 80 games, against New Zealand teams in 2016!

Not looking good in lead in to bledisloe

The experts talk about us being able to match the all blacks at school boy level and then it is all downhill

Well the lack of public school kids says it all

Surely the administrators can be more creative on public school pathway

Maybe a start could be to punt pulver . Couldn't get someone more disconnected
Anyway congrats to all selections and hope they all remain injury free and do Australia proud
 

RugbyPurist

Bob McCowan (2)
Amazing that all of this breaks down to it Bill Pulvers fault. The ARU does not control nor have any appointment of State or Australian Schools sides. If it did perhaps there would be more rigour and science to the selection bias apparent in this years teams. In fact, given the next pathways are through colts and then potentially Super franchise 20's and possibly Australian 20's, maybe the selection panels could be made up of professional coaches who know what they are looking for rather than being blinkered by State or public vs private bias. What is for sure is that vested interest at schools level by selectors and in some cases the appointment of coaches to positions beyond their skill level is detrimental to the game at this level. Many of these boys aspire to professional careers in rugby, yet we waste spots on league players and on favourites of selectors. I wish that Bill Pulver and the ARU were in charge. I would create allot more clarity than this process has produced.
 
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