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Barbarians Australian Tour 2017

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Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Cheika mentioned at a Rugby Lunch up here today that he's going to rest a bunch of players for this and call in some new faces. One name mentioned was Liam Wright.

Again, I question this whole match and it's relevance to what Australian Rugby is trying to achieve other than the ARU have obviously been paid big bucks to be a part of it.

Would be good to see how Wright goes. Has been excellent at the U20s and in the NRC. But, surprisingly, he's not Michael Hooper-lite in that he is a ball winning No 7. Seems out of character for Cheika to be impressed.
 

Jagman

Trevor Allan (34)
Obviously there's a need for extra revenue in a lions tour year when France go to SA.

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fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Would be good to see how Wright goes. Has been excellent at the U20s and in the NRC. But, surprisingly, he's not Michael Hooper-lite in that he is a ball winning No 7. Seems out of character for Cheika to be impressed.


perhaps your base presumption is incorrect
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
Really lite on the backs - my 23 thus far:

10. Quade Cooper (c)
12. ?

Quade is six months off turning thirty and peaked years ago.

22. Sam Greene

This guy should get another look by Australian rugby.

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Also knows how to kick a ball.
 

Brumby Jack

Steve Williams (59)
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Squad for Barabarians game

Forwards
Jermaine Ainsley*, Western Force
Allan Ala'alatoa, 19 Tests, Brumbies
Rory Arnold, 15 Tests, Brumbies
Jack Dempsey, 6 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Kane Douglas, 31 Tests, Queensland Reds
Folau Fainga'a*, Brumbies
Tetera Faulkner, 3 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Ned Hanigan, 9 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Ben McCalman, 49 Tests, Western Force
Stephen Moore, 125 Tests, Queensland Reds
Tom Robertson, 15 Tests, NSW Waratahs
James Slipper, 86 Tests, Queensland Reds
Lopeti Timani, 9 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Lukhan Tui, 3 Tests, Queensland Reds
Jordan Uelese, 2 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Liam Wright*, Queensland Reds

Backs
Israel Folau, 62 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Kyle Godwin, 1 Test, Brumbies
Jake Gordon*, NSW Waratahs
Karmichael Hunt, 3 Tests, Queensland Reds
Samu Kerevi, 14 Tests, Queensland Reds
Billy Meakes*, Western Force
Duncan Paia'aua*, Queensland Reds
Izaia Perese*, Queensland Reds
Nick Phipps, 58 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Joe Powell, 2 Tests, Brumbies
Curtis Rona, 2 Tests, Western Force
Henry Speight, 17 Tests, Brumbies
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Grrrr.

What's the point?

"AUSTRALIA"

15 Israel Folau
14 Henry Speight
13 Samu Kerevi
12 Karmichael Hunt
11 Izaia Perese
10 Duncan Paia'aua
9 Nick Phipps

8 Lopeti Timani
7 Ben McCalman
6 Ned Hanigan
5 Rory Arnold
4 Lukhan Tui
3 Allan Ala'alatoa,
2 Stephen Moore
1 Tom Robertson

16 Jordan Uelese
17 Tetera Faulkner
18 Jermaine Ainsley
19 Kane Douglas
20 Liam Wright
21 Joe Powell
22 Kyle Godwin
23 Curtis Rona
 

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
It's interesting that all the auto-picks are being rested except for Folau. What's the point of playing him, just to draw a crowd?
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
It's a shame Banks is running out for the Baa Baas for this one..........

Also, we could've found better options than McCalman and Godwin, but I assume that this might also be McCalmans last game in Oz?
 

Dctarget

John Eales (66)
I'm not actually too opposed to Ben McCalman being given a run/included in the Spring tour.

He's a very very experienced player, which goes a long way with our current crop of extremely young backrowers. Dempsey, Hanigan, Korczyk, McMahon and Wright could all do with having a proper mentor.

Also I still think Big Dog has some bite left; I was impressed with his performance in yesterday's Spirit game.


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Warpath

Billy Sheehan (19)
with Folau Gone, best to move Beale to 15, Khunt to 12, they both can role reverse during the game since Khunt is a better defender, and Beale is a better attacker so on defence Khunt moves to 15 and on attack, Beale moves to 15.
 

Micheal

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
What's the point? What's the bloody point?!

I'll tell you the bloody point (excuse the poor formatting, my laptop at home doesn't agree with the site):

***Depth***

Admittedly, this team will essentially be an 'Australia A' team - but is that so bad? Cheika has done a tremendous job in building depth within the squad over the last couple of years and this game will be a continuation, and a manifestation, of that.

Regardless, with the following lineup, the Wallabies will still be fielding a combined 531 caps in the 23, and that isn't to be laughed at:

Ala'alatoa, Moore, Slipper
Arnold, Tui
Hanigan, Dempsey, Timani
Phipps, Paia'aua
Hunt, Kerevi
Rona, Folau, Speight

Robertson, Uelese, Faulkner
Douglas, McCalman
Powell, Godwin, Meakes (or Perese)

Not bad at all, eh? It's certainly a team that I would pay to see (and have paid to see, as I am attending).

This is even more important if you consider where we are in the International season both in the short-term (in 2017) and in the long-term (beyond).

Before the Spring tour, we'll play Japan in Japan before heading to Europe to play another three teams in the following three weeks. That's a lot of travel, but I think it's ultimately a good decision to boost the code's coffers with a game in Japan and to let the squad become familiarised with the environment before the 2019 RWC (Eddie Jones has indicated that England will look to do the same at some stage).

BUT, given the sheer amount of rugby that the spine of our team has played (TPN, Coleman, Hooper, Genia, Foley, Beale, Folau) it doesn't make sense to run our first choice side against Japan.

BUT, Japan are no shmucks, and they proved this with the greatest upset in Rugby's history against South Africa at the last RWC. If we run our second choice side against them without a prior game to gel, an upset is certainly plausible and that'd be terrible for both the Wallabies and Australian Rugby.

The solution? Give the team to face Japan (or the majority of it, Folau and Moore to step out) a chance to gel against the Barbarians and become familiar with the Wallabies structures and game plan within the heat of battle. That way, if any of them are required to step into the first choice side as a result of injury, the game plan won't be as foreign to them.

Longer term, the importance of a quality and battle hardened second string team can't be underestimated. At the RWC, each country essentially takes two teams: one to face Tier 1 teams in the pool stages, and another to play Tier 2 nations (and Japan and Fiji etc.).

This game is as much about preparing that second tier side for the RWC as the rest of the Spring tour is about preparing the first tier side for the RWC.

How good. Very exciting stuff.

***The Marquee Event Effect***

Rugby in Australia has a considerable amount of dormant demand. Most famously, we see it at the Sydney 7s and Brisbane 10s these days, but as a 23 year old I've also seen it elsewhere.

Both this year and last, myself and my wider friendship circle (and their circles) attended the Shute Shield Grand Final to a tune of about 50 people. Remarkably, it was essentially the same group as the crowd that I attended the 7s with, both this year and last. Besides from myself and a couple of others, very few of them give a flying fuck about Rugby Union and, even then, I'll be the first to admit that I don't care much for the Shute Shield or the success of our 7s team.

So why did we go? Because we're 20-somethings who will follow a good atmosphere and an excuse to drink at 3pm to the edge of the earth.

Next weekend, a lot of the same group are attending, and I think that's indicative of the wider Rugby public. It'll be a fun afternoon game where (hopefully) some fantastic skills are showcased, and I think that'll be enough to attract a decent crowd who wouldn't necessarily attend many Waratahs / Wallabies games.

***It's Personal***

Alan Jones fucking hates the ARU and has had his fair share to say about Cheika's tenure. This game will get Jones talking about it to parts of Australia that may have forgotten about the glorious game of Rugby Union, and will give Cheika a chance to shut him up for once (or Jones a chance to keep rabbiting on).

He's chosen Quade Cooper, Australian Rugbys "forgotten son" (depending on who you ask), who is custom-fucking-made for Barbarian's fucking and who will be very eager to make a statement for the end of year tour (which I think he will be attending).

He's then chosen Matt Hodgson and a fair few other Western Force alumni who will be eager to send their own message to the ARU and wider Australian public. I'm thinking we could see more quips from Hodgson similar to the delectable "and we did it without the extra $2 million" he served to Hooper as the Force trounced the Waratahs at the end of the recent Super season.

Add a bit of grubbiness to the flair of a Barbarians game and it should be a spectacle.

I'm personally very excited, as is my Dad, my m8s and my bloody dog.

Everyone who can attend, should.

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Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
^^^^Jones hasn't said a word against Cheika or the ARU since he was appointed.
Only smart thing the ARU have done in living memory was to bring him inside the tent to shut him up. hasn't helped the administration of rugby but it got him off their back: as with everything he does its all about him, you just have to find the link.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Some strange selections again in the Wallabies A team. One game only v the Baa Baas. Why select three hookers and three No 9s? One of each won't get on the ground. Would be far bettger to allow the excess player turn out for the Baa Baas as they will be playing two games, and good game time would be guaranteed. Have to admit that I am more and more confused by some of the national coaches' selections as time passes.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Some strange selections again in the Wallabies A team. One game only v the Baa Baas. Why select three hookers and three No 9s? One of each won't get on the ground. Would be far bettger to allow the excess player turn out for the Baa Baas as they will be playing two games, and good game time would be guaranteed. Have to admit that I am more and more confused by some of the national coaches' selections as time passes.
Presumably so there is competition for places, a strong week of training and a chance to work with more players.

I would assume that most or all of the 13 players rested are getting the week off.


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