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Jaco calls it back after the ball goes out - he's not doing the reds any favours

Some of Jaco's decisions at the breakdown have been a bit confusing in the last 10 or 15

stormers lead out to 5

Davies has been good tonight. I have never really been convinced but he has been one of the only reds outside Cooper who has provided a genuine threat has been strong and safe going into contact

then simmons instantly gives a penalty from the kickoff - pietersen wont miss this

reds take the lead - 5 from 5 for Quooper in the second half

Lead back to 2 - Stormers 14-12

That must have been the sarcasm

stormers lead back to 5

Quoopers kicking coming good - 2 point game

He had no option, he had to take the man with the ball and he took him fast and hard to cut down his space and put pressure on the pass. Pass got away but it was a very good strong tackle in the last line of defence.

seriously, with Simmons and saia in the wallabies squad, its hard to be pissed about the waratahs that got picked

Great try - as a side note to last week's shocking attempted tackled by Cooper in the last line - his tackle on that occasion was outstanding, just couldn't prevent the pass being got away

Not only are the quality of some of Cooper's touches are outstanding, in particular under pressure, but the frequency of the quality touches is extra-ordinary. He can't really be blamed for A Finger dropping passes and overrunning him

Riptide, I agree with your assessment of who will be picked but I do think you may underrate their scrummaging ability. Jones is a bit of a potplant in modern parlance but few ever get any change out of him at scrum time. Recall the last lions tour when the beast won the first test for SA by...

That is what I meant. When Barnes has time to check his instinct to kick he takes some very good options. Whenever Cooper gets the ball at the back with time to think, you know he is going to try and beat three defenders with no support or throw a mad last minute kick or pass that may get...

Some further thoughts on the make up of the squad. Lets assume that the 23 comes from this 25, plus a back up 9. Props: Fat Cat is the starting loosehead. He is the best scrummaging prop in Australia and fortunately will be fronting up against the best scrummaging prop in the lions. He...

I agree - but the coaches job is not to pick the best out-half, the coaches job is to pick the 23 with the best chance of beating the lions. This may or may not include the most individually gifted player in a particular position. I would probably pick Cooper given that criteria in any event...

Lads - can we bring some rationality to this debate. This is not the 25 that I would have picked either, but a couple of things are worth bearing in mind: 1. Deans was not going to pick players who are injured and will not be able to play - anyone advocating the selection of Smith, MMM, TPN...

Thanks for the updates Ash - much appreciated. Seems like a few of Robbies decisions may have been made easier for the wrong reasons - but Barnes composure in his two cameos looks to be very pleasing going into a series where maturity in the midfield will be critical.