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That's not the point, the point was that you rely on a out dated stero type when dismissing the quality of European rugby and that super rugby is still up on a pedestal . It's not times are a changing and fast. secondly as a fan of Australian rugby (obviously other than when playing ireland )...

I think as an outsider a problem with Australian rugby is the expectation that they should not only win but entertain in doing so. Clearly the heritage of enterinaing teams is part of Australian rugby culture , the 84 team, the 91 team and so on. I'd suggest australia have far more naturally...

Typo but my point remains , rugby union popularity is growing hugely in Europe And growing in areas of the traditional countries where it was never popular And there is no talk about "product" and "entertainment" and the stadiums byand large don't force feed you the "atmosphere" thru the PA...

Maybe so. but why so is super rugby going backwards in popularity here and growing at a huge rate in Europe

Ya I did , and it is. Is easily marketable for them , is joe soap going to be more interested in a cross town Sydney nrl game o, broncos vs comboys Or reds at 2 am vs a team in opposite side of the world . We need to play 5 nz vs 5 oz maybe an islander team , home and away . Home game every...

Soccer is the world game and there is plenty 0-0 draws , they don't constant change the rules to make it a better "product" The beauty is today it might be 9-6 next day 45-37, next game 21-18 So many styles and ways to win that's the beauty of it . Australia traditionally play A very attractive...

It's not stodgy rugby mate , some of the French reams are loaded with ex all blacks and Fijians, watch some of it next season you'll be surprised My point is that the games are must win due to the structure of the Comp , you can only loose 1 very occasionally if you get results to go your way...

I don't , other than the penalty try But the Irish media do And they the think they got rode thru the series And that's the problem with rugby in nutshell Every game every country polar opposites on the referee

So let me get this straight , you are seriously saying that champions cup rugby is less entertaining than supper rugby Let's agree to disagree You can have your mumbo jumbo sunwolves against your rebels with ther 5 years of history in front of 8,000 people I'll take Leicester in front on...

Is that why the crowds are walking away from it in droves and eurpean club rugby is flying? I'd also be interested to see stats regarding tries , or will we just live off the traditional stereotype of both comps Faddy was unreal this year Rocky Elsom before him in 2009 Jim Williams at Munster...

One team on an upward trajectory and one team on a downward trajectory, Other than when playing ireland I'm passionate about Australian rugby , if you want an outsiders opinion so many of the problems stem from thefarce that is super rugby , it's not even related to must win test rugby , how...

XL tight on the arms , loose on the gut We can add more to the back after the rwc , with a bit of luck we'll win a few games 3-0

There is probably a fundamental difference between Sh and Nh , in Nh they watch Their teams through thu thick and thin , here it's all about the "product" So that wasn't exciting last night , went down to the wire in a test series Or is 55-45 against some mumbo jump made up japenese team in a...

It was the same whinging when england had a dominant forward orientated team in 2003 I remember the disgraceful treatment wilkinson got in the media here Shortly followed by John o neill crusade to change the laws of rugby to suit australia There are multiple ways to win a game , adapt to...

Because the all blacks played champagne rugby to beat France 9-8 in rwc 2011. It's call test rugby for a reason winning is all that counts and 3-0 is enough That same I accept it's not the best brand of rugby It in the Nh There isn't this constant thing about the brand , and trying to attract...

Regarding all the comments about the ref and TMO I agree fully There would be uproar in ireland if that last call went against us , there was a feeling we were rode all game . I'm sure it's the same feeling here that the wallabies were rode Every single tight game comes down to the ref now bar...

Ya I understand that , but look at the structure of the season and tell me there isn't a far great probability that a Nh team will be Missinb frontliners in June than a Sh team will be November Hence the push of a global season Our eurpieanan and domestic club finals are played the 2 weeks...

Sure he said same in Eden park pre rwc 2011 , we are used of it by now Watched on channel 10 tonight , I think the commentary team is far better . Certainly far more knowledgable of the opposition

It's always first xv in November , in June it never is due to the length of the domestic season And that wasn't irelands 3rd team it was a 1.5 / 1.75 team