2025 Bledisloe Cup Series

[Tomthumb]

It’s now 2 tests since he’s come back where O’Connor has failed terribly to execute a skill required of him. He forgot how to Goal kick in Cape Town and forgot what a sideline was in Auckland

We gave in to short term thinking and are still empty handed with no young 10’s getting any experience. Seems like a waste

 

[KOB1987]

It’s now 2 tests since he’s come back where O’Connor has failed terribly to execute a skill required of him. He forgot how to Goal kick in Cape Town and forgot what a sideline was in Auckland

We gave in to short term thinking and are still empty handed with no young 10’s getting any experience. Seems like a waste

It’s a hard one but I think I’d probably rather lose to Donno getting charged down or dropping a sitter than a 35yo JOC (James O'Connor) making those fundamental errors yesterday. If you don’t go you don’t know…..

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Not sure having Love covering both FB & 5/8 is the right call, better off imo getting Jacomb over as a specialist bench 10, Edit: there's enough back-three cover & Tupaea can be the 23 as below.

Proctor must be getting close to being dropped but in saying that I'd still have Tupaea on the bench rather than starting so Proctor probably has to get the nod again (bearing in mind the alternatives are AL-B & Rieko) & hopefully he has a better game than last night.

It won't happen but I'd make ASav the captain, have ScoBar on the bench & start Holland with Vaa’i if fit or PatT if not.

 

[Heavyd]

With 4m watching AFL Grand final 481k for Wallabies is very solid for a 3pm kick off. Given most diehard fans watch it on Stan or at the pub it’s pretty respectable. Next week in a better time slot & no other competition should be interesting.

 

[stillmissit]

I don’t think some of the names mentioned here were as bad in defence as claimed. We instigated an extremely aggressive rush defence for the first time so it’s to be expected that we gave up some missed tackles. It’s not a carte blanche excuse but we have to consider how close the match was at Eden Park against a stung AB team.

All I saw for the first 60 mins was us backpedalling until the umbrella D stopped them. I saw Ryan Lonergan rush out of the line, but that was it.
Our D has a lousy plan that is at least 10 years out of date, the only reason it has only been 'mediocre' is due to the gutsy tackles the guys have made against runners at full speed. This is not good enough these days.

 

[stillmissit]

I actually think I’d rather see a kiwi appointed as the ref in NZ than that Piardi muppet. World Rugby have a lot of explaining to do. Jonker should be barred from officiating any game involving the Wallabies, he clearly either has money on the other team or just doesn’t like us, very obviously. And he gets rewarded with another gig next week. Give him something at the ARG/SAF game if they really must justify his employment, but I can understand they don’t want to waste money on an airfare for him.

That said, despite the officiating bias/incompetence we could have won that game if not for a few of our own errors, comfortably in fact. We are definitely on the rise, whether WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) actually appoint some officials to allow us to realize that is another matter.

Halfway through the game, I said to my mate, "I'd rather have B'OK than this guy."

 

[stillmissit]

make ASav the captain

I thought he almost single handed lifted their whole pack up.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Yeah he has a presence (or mana as we call it over these ways) about him that ScoBar just doesn't.

 

[Pfitzy]

Yeah he has a presence (or mana as we call it over these ways) about him that ScoBar just doesn't.

Codie Taylor

 

[Dan54]

follow-up question
after reviewing the games does / can anything come of it ?

As far as I know there is, they are promoted or demoted etc, I actually heard a ref talking about it at rugby do I was at earlier this year.

 

[Tomthumb]

The most frustrating part is that despite our improvement, we have still won nothing of consequence. Lost Lions series, no Bledisole and most likely no Rugby Championship

I think we have hit the point where moral victories just aren’t cutting it. Anything less than a win in Perth is simply unacceptable

 

[stillmissit]

We can jump up and down as much as we like, but missing almost 4x as many tackles as the AB's is a damning stat. 41-11

 

[Dan54]

Codie Taylor

And helps that Codie a good Levin boy, even if he did go to the other college than @waiopehu oldboy did.

 

[stillmissit]

The most frustrating part is that despite our improvement, we have still won nothing of consequence. Lost Lions series, no Bledisole and most likely no Rugby Championship

I think we have hit the point where moral victories just aren’t cutting it. Anything less than a win in Perth is simply unacceptable

Also a strong win. Not another 2 point wonder, having been down at halftime.

 

[rugbyAU]

The most frustrating part is that despite our improvement, we have still won nothing of consequence. Lost Lions series, no Bledisole and most likely no Rugby Championship

I think we have hit the point where moral victories just aren’t cutting it. Anything less than a win in Perth is simply unacceptable

Exactly, we've won 1/4 since Ellis Park and lost the Mandela Plate, puma Trophy, Bledisloe, TRC and Lions series and our win rate is on par with where its been on average since 2016

 

[stillmissit]

Exactly, we've won 1/4 since Ellis Park and lost the Mandela Plate, puma Trophy, Bledisloe, TRC and Lions series and our win rate is on par with where its been on average since 2016

God!!!! I would not have picked that.

 

[Dan54]

We can jump up and down as much as we like, but missing almost 4x as many tackles as the AB's is a damning stat. 41-11

I still think Wallabies probs are fairly easy fixes. Just be a more proactive on defense. I wouldn't be overly surprised if they switch the result.
AB's certainly not looking on top of their game this year. Wallabies still look to me as a team on the up.

 

[stillmissit]

That's true Dan, they have more ticker but still find ways to lose. Still think they have to change their D patterns.
I was a manager for several years. On annual reviews, some guys would point to how things are improving, and results will soon follow. If in the next 3 months discussion, the story was the same, I would suggest a new company to them.

 

[Pfitzy]

Really? He’s a nice bloke to have a beer with but woefully under qualified for a CEO gig. His banking roles leveraged his network, not his non existent management skills. Shore school to the fore, to the detriment of Australian rugby, a la the last 30 years of incompetence.

Give me the qualifications for the right CEO from your point of view. I've worked corporate jobs for over 25 years and my observations are this:

* no actual qualifications required, tho something formal is preferred
* An ability to make things look good when they aren't necessarily
* Networking (of course) to be able to run some deals
* An ability to speak in public without looking like a complete muppet or harming the brand
* The odd new idea, but nothing too crazy or you'll get blamed for it
* Willingness to stick head above parapet

Besides any of that, you're not even relying on company performance to keep yourself in a job, a lot of the time. Inherent psychopathic tendencies appears to help.

It sounds much like a politician's gig TBH.

The difference is you want someone with experience. Maybe Waugh doesn't have a decade in the C-Suite. Maybe he doesn't need it.

 

[KOB1987]

Give me the qualifications for the right CEO from your point of view. I've worked corporate jobs for over 25 years and my observations are this:

* no actual qualifications required, tho something formal is preferred
* An ability to make things look good when they aren't necessarily
* Networking (of course) to be able to run some deals
* An ability to speak in public without looking like a complete muppet or harming the brand
* The odd new idea, but nothing too crazy or you'll get blamed for it
* Willingness to stick head above parapet

Besides any of that, you're not even relying on company performance to keep yourself in a job, a lot of the time. Inherent psychopathic tendencies appears to help.

It sounds much like a politician's gig TBH.

Yeah I don’t think it’s a traditional CEO type role. There aren’t any notable sports administrators in Australia outside PVL who RA should avoid like the black plague even if he were interested, and the admittedly very well credentialed fossils behind the Sydney Olympics. So we probably need to create one, and maybe Phil is the guy. From my understanding he isn’t just a nice bloke, he’s a top bloke who is clearly passionate about rugby, by all accounts he’s honest, and presumably has an understanding of numbers. I’d much rather that than pay some corrupt fuckwit like Alan Joyce a fortune to run the game.