All Blacks vs Kangaroos?

[rugboy]

The Kangaroos could pick a host of former Rugby Schoolboy stars to ensure they had basic skills to be competitive, particularly with uncontested scrums and no lineouts. The biggest rule the would swing the balance would be how far the defence had to be back. If it is anywhere near League's 10 metres then they would dominate.

 

[zer0]

wtf are we offering NZRU a pool to run for 2027 Rugby World Cup.

Presumably to secure NZR's votes, given RA didn't vote for NZ at any stage during the 2011 RWC ballots.

 

[fatprop]

It can't really work, they are now totally different sports, rugby is about the ability to compete for the ball at every interaction, league has little, to no, competition for the ball, so scrums, lineouts, rucks, mauls and the simple stripping of the the ball have been removed

That has removed the need for the specialists and they have been replaced by generalists who play only right or left of the play the ball

 

[Dan54]

The Kangaroos could pick a host of former Rugby Schoolboy stars to ensure they had basic skills to be competitive, particularly with uncontested scrums and no lineouts. The biggest rule the would swing the balance would be how far the defence had to be back. If it is anywhere near League's 10 metres then they would dominate.

If something as stupid as this happened, I can understand no scrums(safety) and if you cut out lineouts etc, but it's not just that, from my understanding there would be no rucks and mauls either? That is not even a hybrid game , that's just league.

 

[Number 7]

There is a precedent to this. Not sure how many of you are familiar with "Clash of the Codes" that happened in 1996 between Wigan (RL) and Bath. One game under league rules, one under union rules.

At the time both teams were the respective champions of their codes and each team contained many well recognised names.

Wigan flogged Bath in the League match 76-8. The only alteration to the rules in that game was to allow Bath unlimited interchange.

The union match was closer however Bath won pretty comfortably 44-19. There were contested scrums however they were only partially contested for safety reasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_the_Codes_(rugby)

 

[fatprop]

If something as stupid as this happened, I can understand no scrums(safety) and if you cut out lineouts etc, but it's not just that, from my understanding there would be no rucks and mauls either? That is not even a hybrid game , that's just league.

There was one of these piles of shit played years ago, at one scrum the rugby side did a basic shove, the league scrum came up swinging

 

[wamberal]

There was one of these piles of shit played years ago, at one scrum the rugby side did a basic shove, the league scrum came up swinging

A few years ago - one of the NRL sides actually shoved in a scrum. Caused a furore. Mind you, contested league scrums were an absolute charnel house back in the good old, bad old, days. Only suitable for the bravest of the brave. Or the stupidest.

 

[KevinO]

Considering two of the NZ Warriors players currently won't be allowed to return to NZ with the rest of the team because they are not NZ citizens I can't see this happening.

 

[sendit]

Just for fun because i was bored today, Aussie RL forwards are obviously flawed. Was surprisingly hard to pick the Kangaroos side kept thinking of players and remembering they wern't kangaroo eligible

AB's RL
1) Will Jordan
2) Sevu Reece
3) Jack Goodhue
4) Ngani Laumape
5) Rieko Ioane
6) Damien Mckenzie
7) Beauden Barrett
8) Dane Coles
9) Aaron Smith
10) Asafo Aumua
11) Vaea Fafita
12) Sam Cane
13) Ardie Savea

14)Akira Ioane
15) Shannon Frizell
16) Vince Aso
17) Tj Perenara


Kangaroos RU
1) Jake Trbojevic
2) David Fafita
3) Josh Papalii
4) Payne Hass
5) Tevita Pangai Junior
6) Tyson Frizell
7) Angus Crichton
8) Wade Graham
9) Cameron Smith
10) Luke Keary
11) Jordan Rapana
12) Cameron Murray
13) Ben Te'o
14) Tom Trbojevic
15) James Tedesco

16) Joe Ofahengaue
17) Felise Kaufusi
18) Boyd Cordner
19) David Klemmer
20) Victor Radley
21) Damien Cook
22) Ryan Papenhuyzen
23) Kalyn Ponga

 

[Up the Guts]

Just for fun because i was bored today, Aussie RL forwards are obviously flawed. Was surprisingly hard to pick the Kangaroos side kept thinking of players and remembering they wern't kangaroo eligible

AB's RL
1) Will Jordan
2) Sevu Reece
3) Jack Goodhue
4) Ngani Laumape
5) Rieko Ioane
6) Damien Mckenzie
7) Beauden Barrett
8) Dane Coles
9) Aaron Smith
10) Asafo Aumua
11) Vaea Fafita
12) Sam Cane
13) Ardie Savea

14)Akira Ioane
15) Shannon Frizell
16) Vince Aso
17) Tj Perenara


Kangaroos RU
1) Jake Trbojevic
2) David Fafita
3) Josh Papalii
4) Payne Hass
5) Tevita Pangai Junior
6) Tyson Frizell
7) Angus Crichton
8) Wade Graham
9) Cameron Smith
10) Luke Keary
11) Jordan Rapana
12) Cameron Murray
13) Ben Te'o
14) Tom Trbojevic
15) James Tedesco

16) Joe Ofahengaue
17) Felise Kaufusi
18) Boyd Cordner
19) David Klemmer
20) Victor Radley
21) Damien Cook
22) Ryan Papenhuyzen
23) Kalyn Ponga

There are so many iterations of the Kangaroos' forward pack you could have. In the row, I'd be more likely to start Klem with someone like Reagen Campbell Gillard. I'd actually swap Wade Graham and David Fifita. A lot better wingers than Rapana available imo, I think Josh Addo-Carr is a better pick. Te'o has Union experience but is past it, I'd prefer someone like Kotoni Staggs or maybe even Jack Wighton for a bit more size.

 

[Rebels3]

Alright I have had a stab at this

1 Brown (Eels)
2 Trbojevic (Manly)
3 Papalii (Canberra)
4 RCG (Eels)
5 Klemmer (Knights)
6 Haas (Broncos)
7 Graham (Sharks)
8 Fifita (Broncos)
9 Smith (Storm)
10 Cleary (Panthers)
11 Tedesco (Roosters)
12 Munster (Storm)
13 Staggs (Broncos)
14 Vunivalu (Storm)
15 Trbojevic (Manly)

 

[sendit]

A lot better wingers than Rapana available imo,

yea i screwed up anyway, he's a kiwi so no chance of being there

 

[Up the Guts]

Alright I have had a stab at this

1 Brown (Eels)
2 Trbojevic (Manly)
3 Papalii (Canberra)
4 RCG (Eels)
5 Klemmer (Knights)
6 Haas (Broncos)
7 Graham (Sharks)
8 Fifita (Broncos)
9 Smith (Storm)
10 Cleary (Panthers)
11 Tedesco (Roosters)
12 Munster (Storm)
13 Staggs (Broncos)
14 Vunivalu (Storm)
15 Trbojevic (Manly)

Reckon Nathan Brown is big enough for loosehead? Addin Fonua-Blake would be pretty handy.

 

[Rebels3]

Reckon Nathan Brown is big enough for loosehead? Addin Fonua-Blake would be pretty handy.

I’ll go Welch from the Storm at LH then. Has played plenty of rugby in the past and is currently roommates with some of the Rebels boys. He’s another 5kg in Brown.

 

[Braveheart81]

The problem with the hybrid game is that with depowered scrums and lineouts, rugby has to make changes to the side they'd pick to be more suited to the game but league doesn't.

League players with some rugby experience would probably be worthwhile for breakdowns but the forward pack a rugby team chose would be pretty different. You probably wouldn't pick a genuine lock and the only props I'd consider picking would be Tupou and maybe Ala'alatoa.

 

[Rebels3]

Here is my I’m in lockdown and bored union team to play league

1 DHP
2 Koroibete
3 Paisami
4 Hooper
5 Petaia
6 JOC (James O'Connor)
7 To'omua
8 Naisarani
9 White
10 Tupou
11 Kurindrani
12 Kerevi
13 McMahon

14 Wilson
15 Philip
16 Samu
17 Stewart

 

[Rebels3]

The problem with the hybrid game is that with depowered scrums and lineouts, rugby has to make changes to the side they'd pick to be more suited to the game but league doesn't.

League players with some rugby experience would probably be worthwhile for breakdowns but the forward pack a rugby team chose would be pretty different. You probably wouldn't pick a genuine lock and the only props I'd consider picking would be Tupou and maybe Ala'alatoa.

Yep most front rowers and locks would be a liability because of the lack of speed and agility. Need players that win collisions as well

 

[sendit]

Yep most front rowers and locks would be a liability because of the lack of speed and agility. Need players that win collisions as well

In saying that though i wouldn't mind giving Skelton a run in a hypothetical RU/RL game featuring the Wallabies. Can't think of anyone that matches him in size in rugby league. Even Payne Hass doesn't match up

 

[Blue]

NO NO NO NO NO NO.

 

[Up the Guts]

In saying that though i wouldn't mind giving Skelton a run in a hypothetical RU/RL game featuring the Wallabies. Can't think of anyone that matches him in size in rugby league. Even Payne Hass doesn't match up

Big Nelson Asofa-Solomona would come close but Skelton’s ball skills are a lot better.