Australia vs British and Irish Lions - 1st Test (Brisbane)
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Troy
Jim Clark (26)
That would be good and not saying we won't play running rugby, but (barring injuries) there is no way QC (Quade Cooper) will be there given RD comments yesterday re Taps.
Still we've got our tickets. Nine of going planning on making a day of it and have told the 'ministers on internal affairs' to expect us when they see us!
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
is that the 25 announced on Sunday, the 6 to be announced soon, the 8 to be omitted from the total of 31 picked, the 1 of the 25 who must miss out once a 2nd half is named or some other Wallaby?
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
He's probably A.N.Other.
Rassie
Trevor Allan (34)
Define running rugby for me?
Scoey
Tony Shaw (54)
It's Mabo; it's the Constitution; it's the vibe of it. Nah it's just the vibe really.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
It's when you get the ball and give it to one of your big centres who proceeds to crash into the defence, around a hundred times a game. That's according to Robbie anyway.
Grandmaster Flash
Johnnie Wallace (23)
So in terms of the team picked, looks like Ioane may be out of the First Test.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8663006
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8663006
Rassie
Trevor Allan (34)
The big centers crash for a purpose
First prize: Bust the line.
Second prize: Build momentum.
Third prize: Squeeze a penalty.
Yes we understand the theory. We don't need it explained to us.
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Actually it goes a bit further than the three step program Rassie has described.
When Gatland's Wales won the grand slam last time, he cooked up a very simple game plan that looked flashy and world beating, but came down to two very simple things
1) crashing it up around the ruck with the forwards or one out with Roberts et al
2) once momentum was achieved, use a three man decoy screen in midfield (Roberts, the other centre, and a winger, fullback, or flanker) while the ball went behind from the first receiver to the men wide.
This was executed only when they were on the front foot with the defence committed to the midfield channels, putting their big wingers or the nimble Leigh Halfpenny in overlaps or 1 on 1 situations with static tacklers
It is a fairly easy thing to train, but relies on the first receiver to have a good wide passing game, and the forwards to tear into the ruck to ensure quick ball. This required much higher fitness levels than they had previously when they were playing ten man of course, and Gatland managed to get the blokes he wanted and train up those who needed it, and wanted it enough. The WRU also put the clubs on notice that they expected more.
As we saw when Wales were out here, when the opposition tacklers are used to defending hard in midfield and fast on the flanks, and your flyhalf hasn't got his confidence, the plan is blunted somewhat. They also had to compete with better flankers than you typically get up north in terms of breakdown disruption, rather than just pouring numbers into the ruck to slow it down.
Now Gatland has the chance to fill any shortcomings he had in that Welsh team with talent from other mains, and we will see how much of that game plan he can dust off and re-use, and how quickly the parts come together with the bits he has to engineer from scratch
When Gatland's Wales won the grand slam last time, he cooked up a very simple game plan that looked flashy and world beating, but came down to two very simple things
1) crashing it up around the ruck with the forwards or one out with Roberts et al
2) once momentum was achieved, use a three man decoy screen in midfield (Roberts, the other centre, and a winger, fullback, or flanker) while the ball went behind from the first receiver to the men wide.
This was executed only when they were on the front foot with the defence committed to the midfield channels, putting their big wingers or the nimble Leigh Halfpenny in overlaps or 1 on 1 situations with static tacklers
It is a fairly easy thing to train, but relies on the first receiver to have a good wide passing game, and the forwards to tear into the ruck to ensure quick ball. This required much higher fitness levels than they had previously when they were playing ten man of course, and Gatland managed to get the blokes he wanted and train up those who needed it, and wanted it enough. The WRU also put the clubs on notice that they expected more.
As we saw when Wales were out here, when the opposition tacklers are used to defending hard in midfield and fast on the flanks, and your flyhalf hasn't got his confidence, the plan is blunted somewhat. They also had to compete with better flankers than you typically get up north in terms of breakdown disruption, rather than just pouring numbers into the ruck to slow it down.
Now Gatland has the chance to fill any shortcomings he had in that Welsh team with talent from other mains, and we will see how much of that game plan he can dust off and re-use, and how quickly the parts come together with the bits he has to engineer from scratch
But a micro-GIF would expose us all to the nuance of it.
Athilnaur
Arch Winning (36)
FP we don't have any big centres, at least not until CFS or Inman make the grade.
And a cynic would riposte aussie running rugby is your midget flyhalf come centre crabbing up and down the line looking for a gap and having your whole team slowly advance to the rear while samoans angry for being disrespected smash the guys receiving hospital passes
And a cynic would riposte aussie running rugby is your midget flyhalf come centre crabbing up and down the line looking for a gap and having your whole team slowly advance to the rear while samoans angry for being disrespected smash the guys receiving hospital passes
Rassie
Trevor Allan (34)
International teams refer to the area from their own try line out to the 22m line as their Exit Zone. The area between the two 22m lines as the General Play Zone. It’s called this because your opponents will have a general defence system they’ll deploy. Red Zone is the area inside the opposition’s 22m line. So they will have different different patterns for every zone.
From that pattern they use a strike play. Like attacking the opposition flyhalf with a power center and the supporting winger would be the ruck cleaner if he is tackled. Its a momentum pattern was designed to exhaust the defence and create kick and run options to exploit space.
New Zealand and Australia have a tactic of tiring out the big forwards of the opposition first before the hand over the ball. This works very well against SA as we got big lumps and you will notice a lot of times we run into a lead vs New Zealand and watch them come back. Its because our energy reserves have been tapped and if the lead is not big enough we lose.
Rassie
Trevor Allan (34)
OMG Derrick Hougaardt 2003 World Cup getting sold out by Joost against Samoa. Lima cut him in halfFP we don't have any big centres, at least not until CFS or Inman make the grade.
And a cynic would riposte aussie running rugby is your midget flyhalf come centre crabbing up and down the line looking for a gap and having your whole team slowly advance to the rear while samoans angry for being disrespected smash the guys receiving hospital passes
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