SouthernX
Jim Lenehan (48)
Good chance NZ play in the finals every other year and they just don’t have stadium infrastructure in NZ to maximize a big event like a nations cup final.
send it to the highest bidder and all 12 teams share the spoils
Australian Rugby / RA
- Thread starter Dave Beat
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Good chance NZ play in the finals every other year and they just don’t have stadium infrastructure in NZ to maximize a big event like a nations cup final.
send it to the highest bidder and all 12 teams share the spoils
Tomikin
Simon Poidevin (60)
I agree, the highest bidder, we need to be maximizing the returns.
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Let's say this commercial gain of the Qatar Finals was split equally amongst all 12 participating nations(minus operations cost, etc.). Selling the final to Qatar is worth around $10 million to Rugby Australian annually. Additional revenue sharing can still be achieved through sponsorship/broadcast rights pooling for the entire 'tournament', so conceivably, it leaves RA anywhere between $15-$25 million better off per annum.
I'm aware it won't run every year, but for the sake of analysis, I averaged it out.
I'm aware it won't run every year, but for the sake of analysis, I averaged it out.
wamberal99
Syd Malcolm (24)
And as much as it rankles, we need to ensure maximum betting revenue.
Members Section
John Thornett (49)
just imagine how sad your pathetic life has to be to go back though post from 3 years ago just to react to it, I don't miss the racists & the stubborn clowns on here 1 bit.
SouthernX
Jim Lenehan (48)
this isn’t an actual priority.
viewership is way more important - it drives eyeballs on tv sets which advertisers love
I’d go one step further and say “nations cup finals” get preferential bidding status if in Europe Timezone
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
It's not mutually exclusive; if anything, I'd say viewers and gambling(depending on the market) are mutually beneficial.
Morale issues of gambling aside is a massive revenue source that other codes exploit. Gambling revenue for the NRL now exceeds what RA receives in broadcast rights from Nine/Stan.
In terms of viewership, this is where Qatar holds an advantage; it appeals to the European timezones, but it's shit for Australia/NZ & Japan, though.
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
I've never really understood how they make revenue from gambling.
I assume they aren't actually taking bets from anyone?
Are bookmakers paying? What for?
SouthernX
Jim Lenehan (48)
It’s exclusive deals with betting companies. The leagues give some exclusive stuff like lineups before public to a betting agency then betting agency gives a cut to the sporting league.
there’s actually no laws (that I know of) that prevents a betting agency stopping bookmakers setting lines.
it’s why the NRL Vegas venture being some big economic boon was always a fallacy (in USA) because it wasn’t going to stop MGM/Caesars setting lines on those events - yet none of those casinos even bothered to open up the Vegas games to punting (only circa casino in Freemont street did)
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Receive a share of bets in exchange for Access to data, sponsorship and exclusive rights as far as I’m aware
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
I am guessing currently RA actively doesn't engage with betting partners or the main bookmakers have agreements with their other codes to not feature extensive rugby markets for betting.
Because compared to NRL & AFL for example the rugby markets are essentially non-existent.
Because compared to NRL & AFL for example the rugby markets are essentially non-existent.
KevinO
Geoff Shaw (53)
Rugby markets on sports bet this year are worse then ever, couldn't even see odds on first try scorer for some games. Also union betting does not allow any form of same game multi bets. This is where AFL/League are the bookies favorites, people placing long shot multi bets with hope and dreams.
I was happy with first try scorer and winning margin bets, now can't even do that.
I was happy with first try scorer and winning margin bets, now can't even do that.
KentwellCup>ShuteShield
Bill Watson (15)
Ladbrokes is the best betting service for Union.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Did I miss something?
Dismal Pillock
Simon Poidevin (60)
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
Under the constitution, the member unions are liable for debts and liabilities run up by RA if they get wound up.
Luckily there is also a cap of $100 each
SouthernX
Jim Lenehan (48)
so many quality players atm are looking elsewhere… it’s such a shame that feels like RA is sitting idle and being reactive.
if any reform comes to the game. We need greater transparency about wallaby top ups and how the money is divided out.
does anyone else find it maddening that 3 big signings of recent all went to the Waratahs and they all play same position group (JS, Jorgensen and kellaway)
if any reform comes to the game. We need greater transparency about wallaby top ups and how the money is divided out.
does anyone else find it maddening that 3 big signings of recent all went to the Waratahs and they all play same position group (JS, Jorgensen and kellaway)