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[Adam84]

I agree Adam, I was surprised that RA didn't push for a 7pm kick off. But as I pointed out they all agree to these times.
2.30 wasn't a chance as we got NPC playing then, and that's actually same sport.
The only thing that is a positive they are playing games to suit the people attending I think.
Come to think of it whay didn't both unions just have the tests on opposite weekends, I just think RA must have forgotten all about AFL being on.

Nope. Not how it works Dan.
Host nation dictates the time. Amateur stuff

 

[Giulia]

2.30 wasn't a chance as we got NPC playing then, and that's actually same sport.

NZRU would schedule NPC game for night if they wanted All Blacks at 2:30pm

 

[Rebel man]

this isn’t about AFL fans getting upset though Dru, this is about denying one of RA/NZRUs rugbys premier events a larger commercial market through poor planning. Last years AFL GF drew 400k FTA viewers from QLD alone, a traditional rugby state; these 400k aren’t just core ‘AFL fans’, these are casual sports fans watching over and it’s also events in pubs/bars, which rugby struggles to break into regardless but the Bledisloe will now be downgraded further during this time slot.

Realistically this first Bledisloe should have been a great opportunity to capitalise on what has been 12 months of positive news and coverage of rugby & wallabies, and it could have been done in a completely clear timeslot had NZRU played it at the same time-slot they’ve hosted almost every other test in the past 3 years..

Exactly this

 

[Dan54]

Nope. Not how it works Dan.
Host nation dictates the time. Amateur stuff

WR (World Rugby) says otherwise ,both teams have to agree,and all tests have to be signed off by WR (World Rugby), but I agree generally the visiting team goes along with what host wants. Same as laws of game, they all come under the same body.
I would be gobsmacked if anyone in NZR would know when AFL final is on, the time etc was set in April, but surprised that seems RA may of let it slip by.


So this is World rugby rules for test matches Adam,(taken from WR (World Rugby) site) note the locations and kick-off times are agreed :
15.8 Unions have a responsibility to ensure that International Tour arrangements, Match location(s) and kick-off times are agreed and communicated at the earliest opportunity so that other stakeholders including supporters, broadcasters and other commercial partners may plan accordingly.

Not sure how it can be clearer than that!
Just be like what the majority of kiwis will have to do with 11pm kick off(in NZ) of Perth test next week, record it and watch it when it convenient! It's no biggie.

 

[Adam84]

WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) says otherwise ,both teams have to agree,and all tests have to be signed off by WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby), but I agree generally the visiting team goes along with what host wants. Same as laws of game, they all come under the same body.
I would be gobsmacked if anyone in NZR would know when AFL final is on, the time etc was set in April, but surprised that seems RA may of let it slip by.


So this is World rugby rules for test matches Adam,(taken from WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) site) note the locations and kick-off times are agreed :
15.8 Unions have a responsibility to ensure that International Tour arrangements, Match location(s) and kick-off times are agreed and communicated at the earliest opportunity so that other stakeholders including supporters, broadcasters and other commercial partners may plan accordingly.

Not sure how it can be clearer than that!

Dan this is a bit desperate now. If you’re saying the NZRU are completely oblivious to major sporting events being held by their commercial competitors in the Oceania region, then I’d be disappointed and surprised, but based on actions perhaps they are.

As it applies with the TRC, SANZAAR sets the tournament framework, in which the host union has the right to nominate venue and proposed kick-off time within the schedule agreed. This is done in consultation with the host unions broadcast partner.

World Rugby’s clause about both unions “agreeing” is effectively administrative as its their as a final check to protect to player welfare and logistical feasibility — the touring side signs off once the host + TV networks have decided.

Otherwise South Africa would play all their TRC hosted matches against NZ/Aus at 10am local so it’s on before midnight in Aus/NZ lol…

 

[Dan54]

@Adam84 yep mate, not desperate, just showing you RA I strongly suspect forgot AFL today, I betting almost everyone on here didn't see the conflict until last week , even though the test has been set down for this time since beginning of year. WR (World Rugby) can suggest times moved if it is betterment of one union, but it's pretty neutral.
Mind you , I not into conspiracy theories, and I sure NZR aren't trying to make it hard. My way of looking at it.
1 TV rights for both countries already sold, so no difference in money.
2 By having an earlier kick off (like RA seem to be doing next week, and did for Pumas tests) the game is better time for families. But as I say there nothing in it for NZR but more ticket sales, and there is nothing to stop you recording test , and watching it after AFL final.
But anyway, this test is 5pm NZT and next week is about 11pm NZT , and 3pm Aus , and 5.45pm Aus so we have to live with it and just record it if it wrong time for any of us.
As I said I not a conspiracy theorist, so I just take things as they come.

 

[Major Tom]

@Adam84 yep mate, not desperate, just showing you RA I strongly suspect forgot AFL today, I betting almost everyone on here didn't see the conflict until last week , even though the test has been set down for this time since beginning of year. WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) can suggest times moved if it is betterment of one union, but it's pretty neutral.
Mind you , I not into conspiracy theories, and I sure NZR aren't trying to make it hard. My way of looking at it.
1 TV rights for both countries already sold, so no difference in money.
2 By having an earlier kick off (like RA seem to be doing next week, and did for Pumas tests) the game is better time for families. But as I say there nothing in it for NZR but more ticket sales, and there is nothing to stop you recording test , and watching it after AFL final.
But anyway, this test is 5pm NZT and next week is about 11pm NZT , and 3pm Aus , and 5.45pm Aus so we have to live with it and just record it if it wrong time for any of us.
As I said I not a conspiracy theorist, so I just take things as they come.

Dan these are different issues. One is flat out just a Timezone constraint and the other one is a quite obvious scheduling clash with one of the highest rating events in Australia. I’d be surprised if Nz people wouldn’t at least be checking in with snoop dog’s pre game performance.

 

[Dan54]

Dan these are different issues. One is flat out just a Timezone constraint and the other one is a quite obvious scheduling clash with one of the highest rating events in Australia. I’d be surprised if Nz people wouldn’t at least be checking in with snoop dog’s pre game performance.

I not sure anyone know Snoop Dog is at AFL. I haven't seen or heard it. But genuinely doubt whether most of NZ knows AFL on etc or who they have appearing there. I certainly haven't heard it mentioned on radio or tv, or even seen it in press over here, either Snoop or AFL actually.
But hope it goes well for both teams in the final, I heard/read Lions were playing in a rugby forum, but no idea who they playing.

 

[dru]

this isn’t about AFL fans getting upset though Dru, this is about denying one of RA/NZRUs rugbys premier events a larger commercial market through poor planning.

Yeah I know. Two sides of a coin I guess, most of the complaint I see here is about managing to see both. The commercial traction issue stands on its own. Just don't know how realistic expectations of NZR impacts here in Australia are in reality. Thought it had been well established.

 

[Dan54]

Yeah I know. Two sides of a coin I guess, most of the complaint I see here is about managing to see both. The commercial traction issue stands on its own. Just don't know how realistic expectations of NZR impacts here in Australia are in reality. Thought it had been well established.

I actually think if it that big a weekend, as I said earlier the game shouldn't even be in Aus this weekend, when scheduling them, surely if everyone know the AFL is on, they would/could of just had the Perth test this week (on Friday night), and Auckland test next week . So who should know the AFL was on this weekend and so get scheduling set is the question. I assume all parties at meeting in Oct when the schedule is done'

 

[Sully]

Oh for fucks sake shut up about it.

 

[liquor box]

I couldn't care less about clashes; you can watch a game at any time and don't have to watch it live.

I rarely watch anything live; I like to skip through breaks in play and half time etc.

I am more upset at another day game, at least being in NZ the viewing should be ok because there won't be a shadow on the ground for most of the game which makes the ball invisible when it is kicked into the sunlit portion of the ground. I hate day games, I prefer nights and if my kids want to watch a game I will watch it on Sunday morning.

 

[Slim 293]

@Adam84 yep mate, not desperate, just showing you RA I strongly suspect forgot AFL today, I betting almost everyone on here didn't see the conflict until last week , even though the test has been set down for this time since beginning of year.

This reads pretty desperate…

 

[Adam84]

This reads pretty desperate…

Desperate Dan found excuses for and defended Brett Impey through covid and all the shit he pulled on Australian Rugby back then as well…. Even the new NZRU Chair has lashed the behaviour of his predecessors

 

[Dan54]

Desperate Dan found excuses for and defended Brett Impey through covid and all the shit he pulled on Australian Rugby back then as well…. Even the new NZRU Chair has lashed the behaviour of his predecessors

What Adam? I may not agree with all your conspiracy theories that NZR was out to get Aus rugby, but genuinely can't even rememver who Brett Impy is. But if it helps you I will put hand up

 

[Crashy]

Bledisloe rated 12 on Saturday on FTA. ( if someone has the STAN numbers that would help paint the full picture).
reach 1.125 million and average 481k.

AFL was reach of 6.1 million and average 4.1 million.

Think the AFL wins. but they have zero games until next year. We have many.
yay

 

[Ignoto]

We have one more game in Australian prime time realistically speaking. If you add up all of the EOYT games I doubt they would add up to the AFL GF figures.

There's not much this weekend for Australian rugby other than pride. Bledisloe is gone and I don't think we can win the TRC even with a bonus point win and the Argies beating the Boks by more than 7.

 

[Crashy]

yeah if we beat the All blacks 50 nil we might be in with a shot

 

[Omar Comin']

I don't think we can win the TRC even with a bonus point win and the Argies beating the Boks by more than 7.

We would actually - if that happened we'd end up on 16 points and South Africa would stay on 15.

 

[Ignoto]

We would actually - if that happened we'd end up on 16 points and South Africa would stay on 15.

TIL - I was under the assumption that a win was 3 + 1 for a BP. Bad glad to be wrong!!