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Canberra Vikings - Offical NRC Team Thread

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Peter Johnson (47)
And I'm sure with the Brumbies doing this for the good of Australian rugby, they probably were going to forward that money directly back to the ARU too.

TBH, I fear if the Brumbies cant get Tom up a level of two where he is forcing his way past Arnold and Enever, he will be let go and as he is not at the level required for Super Rugby, potentially lost to the game. He has been around a while, and not quite stepping up as expected after playing U20's and NRC.

So it will be a dead loss to all parties - player, teams, competitions and country.
 
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Train Without a Station

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Yes, because so many Australian second rowers have cemented spots as starting players by the time they were 21.

James Horwill debuted at 21 for the Reds. Luke Jones was a bench player at the Rebels at that age. A number of tight forwards have floated around taking time to break through before they hit 22/23.

You are being absolutely ridiculous trying to justify the Brumbies selfish actions of not wanting Tom to play for another NRC team.
 

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Will Genia (78)
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Staniforth is still 20 (for 2 more days).

Enever is ahead of him who is 23 and played in the U20s in 2011.

Arnold has somewhat come from nowhere but he is 25 and more mature for a tight five forward.

Staniforth hasn't really been around a while comparatively. The NRC is exactly where he should be playing in 2015 to try and improve. If he continues to be stuck behind better locks at the Brumbies he may need to move to another team to get more opportunity.
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
So by your rational Tom runs round in the NRC and stays at about the same performance level as before and its rinse and repeat next year.

Should Tom not improve what would be the benefit? The Brumbies assessed he need further development not available here at this time.
Staniforth is an excellent prospect but it's a bit of a stretch to claim he's too cool for school to play in the NRC.

His shit doesn't stink and he's too good for everyone else in the comp?

Can't improve by playing against such poor opposition, right?

He's played, what? ~ 60 minutes of Supe and started 6 times in a Vikings team that finished 3 from the bottom of the log.

The way I see it, he wasn't good enough to displace the locks they've chosen for the Vikings this season. The Brumbies were just crying about another franchise potentially getting him. ;)

Don't worry, this is not a Brumbies attack. I believe the Force (and suspect the Rebels) have a similar approach. It's understandable from their view.
 
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Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Staniforth is still 20 (for 2 more days).

Enever is ahead of him who is 23 and played in the U20s in 2011.

Arnold has somewhat come from nowhere but he is 25 and more mature for a tight five forward.

Staniforth hasn't really been around a while comparatively. The NRC is exactly where he should be playing in 2015 to try and improve. If he continues to be stuck behind better locks at the Brumbies he may need to move to another team to get more opportunity.

Would possibly go overseas for better money and opportunity to play.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Yes, because so many Australian second rowers have cemented spots as starting players by the time they were 21.

James Horwill debuted at 21 for the Reds. Luke Jones was a bench player at the Rebels at that age. A number of tight forwards have floated around taking time to break through before they hit 22/23.

You are being absolutely ridiculous trying to justify the Brumbies selfish actions of not wanting Tom to play for another NRC team.

Twas do you know precisely why the Brumbies wanted him to play ITM or are you guessing it was purely for selfish reasons?
 
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TOCC

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All Australians Super Rugby players should be playing in the NRC, the only exception is in the case of foreign marquee players who are also playing in Japan.

It's not just to expedite the development of Staniforth but also those players around him, he is no doubt a better player then some of the others in the comp, The higher calibre of player and skill levels across the comp will improve the rest playing around them.

Also in terms of the commercial interest of the competition, the ARU needs all the professional players it has to be playing the the comp to lift the standard to a level where fans want to watch and sponsors are willing to throw their support behind.


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Train Without a Station

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Twas do you know precisely why the Brumbies wanted him to play ITM or are you guessing it was purely for selfish reasons?

They want one of their full time professionals not to play NRC. No matter what, it's selfish.

The more full time professionals, the better the competition is.
 

Happy

Dave Cowper (27)
Anyway, $50 for a season ticket is a bargain. Even though last year was $35, this year it includes a cap, and it also gives you 2 free drinks per home game in the Vikings Club after the game. 8 drinks plus a cap more than covers the extra $15.
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
Anyway, $50 for a season ticket is a bargain. Even though last year was $35, this year it includes a cap, and it also gives you 2 free drinks per home game in the Vikings Club after the game. 8 drinks plus a cap more than covers the extra $15.

Rams are offering $40 season passes. You get a cap plus meet the players, team news, clinic invites. I'd consider it but I'll like only get to two games this season and entry is only $15 dollars.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Same story here too. Will only get to see two home games this year, so will gve the membership a miss. Would like to get hold of a cap though. Anyone know if they will be on sale?
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Looking to the first game this weekend, I would expect the team to look something like this :

15 Toua
14 Taliauli
13 Ah Wong
12 Dargaville
11 Fainifo
10 Iona
9 Hamlin
8 Vaea
7 Butler
6 Smiler
5 Arnold
4 Enever
3 Alexander
2 Abel
1 Ala'alatoa

Maybe Powell for Hamlin? Strong enough to give the Eagles a run for their money, but it is a disadvantage not having the game time from last weekend behind them.
 

Whitehead

Allen Oxlade (6)
What a joke the Vikings team has become if it doesn't win the comp by the length of the straight with that team McKellar has to go he does deserve to stay a forwards coach at the brumbies cause he did a good job there but maybe he is not the right person to oversee a program like this. someone like dargaville who the brumbies got after playing for the stars last year should go back and play for them and leave a spot for a local bloke to show what he has got otherwise the comp will just be dominated by the teams that are just an arm of the super rugby franchises and local blokes here won't have the stepping stone to super rugby which this comp was meant to offer.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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@Whitehead, What "local bloke/s" do you think deserves a gig with the Vikings?

IIRC, the ARU stipulate no more than 14 Super Rugby Players per NRC squad, and when you take injuries, and Super Rugby Off season unavailabilities like surgery, invitation matches, and the like most clubs would struggle to put more than 8 Super Rugby Players on the field, and many of those are at the start of their Super Career, not the peak.

It comes down to Money, and whomsoever pays the pro's dictates what they will do, and where they will do it.
 

Whitehead

Allen Oxlade (6)
@Whitehead, What "local bloke/s" do you think deserves a gig with the Vikings?

IIRC, the ARU stipulate no more than 14 Super Rugby Players per NRC squad, and when you take injuries, and Super Rugby Off season unavailabilities like surgery, invitation matches, and the like most clubs would struggle to put more than 8 Super Rugby Players on the field, and many of those are at the start of their Super Career, not the peak.

It comes down to Money, and whomsoever pays the pro's dictates what they will do, and where they will do it.

There are plenty who would go well at this level and yes I understand the rules around the limit of super rugby players but Robbie Coleman is out for the season so they don't include him in that 14, if he was included than dargaville might of had to of gone back to sydney and a jake rakic or jr morgan (if he wasn't injured) could play 12. Vikings have 13 contracted players in the 22 tomorrow and once tuggeranong get their allocation it doesn't leave much room for anyone else!
 
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