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Bottom 3 teams Vs. Top 3 teams this week. Can anyone see any upsets on the cards? Big win for Knox IMO.
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They won by 6 tries to 1 and 30+ points so not a huge margin but still good. Missing a couple of players and travelling long distance in a day they were always going to be rusty. Can’t see Aloys getting within 40 points. Depends on how many subs are brought on in the 2nd half by BarkerOnly beating Stannies by 20 points is a bit too be "worried" about. Also I wouldn't write Aloys off, you never know when a 2019 Aloys Vs Waverly upset could happen again. Does anyone know if they had players out for the stannies game?
Hey RoD, personally I wouldn't refuse this either.I haven't seen a single person on the CAS forum say they would refuse to merge our competition with the ISA.
With this years heavily heated Cranbrook and Waves rivalry, Death Valley this weekend will be arguably the biggest game of the season.The winner of Cranbrook and Waverley gets a massive confidence boost going into next term with Cranbrook playing trinity next up after the show down at Death Valley. Waverley having a tough run coming up against Cranbrook then Barker there season could be over before it had even started. With Wav Col winning 38-24 and The Brook 26-14 against Auggies. the show down of the east should be one for the ages. I believe Cranbrook have not won at Queens park for 14 years so although this new found Cranbrook confidence on the forums, Waverley should still go into this game as favourites.
Hey RoD, personally I wouldn't refuse this either.
However, I think it just adds to the skill gap problems that have been mentioned previously. For instance, the bottom ISA teams would not and will never be able to compete with the likes of Knox and Barker. As we have seen in the trials, the only schools that could compete evenly in the CAS would be St Augustine's and Oakhill (even still, Knox put 50 on Oakhill a few weeks ago).
BUT, it does create fairer competition between the bottom schools which means the likes of Aloys, Kinross, and Pius wouldn't be running out to get smashed every week. I think Rugby AU needs to take this into serious consideration.
Confusing as to why Cranbrook is in a lower tear to Auggies and pats despite beating both of them.Hey mate,
I think you're a little confused on what has been proposed. Happy to explain it to you though.
If we were to combine the two comps we would actually be creating a tier system that would go a little something like this (perhaps some slightly disagree but this is roughly the schools in each).
Tier 1
- Knox
- Waves
- Barker
- Oakhill
- Augs
- Pats
Tier 2(One of these schools would likely be dropped)
- Cranbrook
- Trinity
- Aloys
- Stannies
- Pius
- Gregs
- Kinross
Tier 3
- I believe the ISA already have a tier of pretty much non-rugby schools such as Redfield College. This would remain the same.
The goal would be for teams to compete within their tiers. So you don't get large mismatches, although there will still be age groups that are stronger/weaker than the rest, it would be far more even then it is now. This would be huge in helping some of the struggling schools build rugby culture. This would also likely be reviewed at the end of every year. Say for example, Cranbrook have a resurgence as they are arguably the strongest tier 2 school in the rough draft above. They would likely replace Pats or even Barker depending on how things go moving forward.
yes likely, due to the vast array of talent that these schools poach from Auggies extremely strong development. Some recent examples include the likes of barkers fullback Poynton and 10 Dene and Knox's 10 Jecks, just to mention a few over the past two years. Maybe if Augs could offer scholarships they could compete in retaining this talent.Indeed. I am sensing some bias...
Please make an educated decisions based on recent results instead of Cranbrooks weak history.
Auggies, although decent for an ISA side, would lose to Barker, Knox and Waverley every year.
Biggest game of the season...?With this years heavily heated Cranbrook and Waves rivalry. Death Valley this weekend will be arguably the biggest game of the season.
We will see a massive crowd and some controversial chants from the schoolboys.
Cranbrook are currently 2-0 winning the AFL and the Basketball...
Very very very excited.
You seem very active during the daytime Pocockenthusiast1973! Curious as to why this is.I would also like to add some more to this discussion.
St Pats 1st XV was beaten by a Kings 3rd XV team. Regardless of a schools depth, losing to a team of all Year 11s does not make you eligible for a "top" tier.
The good thing about the CAS this year is any of the top 4 teams could win the comp. It just depends who turns up on the day.Changing the conversation..
My slightly biased prediction:
Knox
Cranbrook
Barker (Upset against brook)
Waves
Trinity
Aloys
It would make the combined CAS/ISA comp very entertaining (for some schools) but It will ruin the rich history and culture that a lot of us grew up with.Hey mate,
I think you're a little confused on what has been proposed. Happy to explain it to you though.
If we were to combine the two comps we would actually be creating a tier system that would go a little something like this (perhaps some slightly disagree but this is roughly the schools in each).
Tier 1
- Knox
- Waves
- Barker
- Oakhill
- Augs
- Pats
Tier 2(One of these schools would likely be dropped)
- Cranbrook
- Trinity
- Aloys
- Stannies
- Pius
- Gregs
- Kinross
Tier 3
- I believe the ISA already have a tier of pretty much non-rugby schools such as Redfield College. This would remain the same.
The goal would be for teams to compete within their tiers. So you don't get large mismatches, although there will still be age groups that are stronger/weaker than the rest, it would be far more even then it is now. This would be huge in helping some of the struggling schools build rugby culture. This would also likely be reviewed at the end of every year. Say for example, Cranbrook have a resurgence as they are arguably the strongest tier 2 school in the rough draft above. They would likely replace Pats or even Barker depending on how things go moving forward.
Confirming the Waverley v Cranbrook fixture has been moved to Adelaide oval as a warm
Up game for state of origin.
Yes. 3rd & 4thsOn the lines of this, does Aloys have a 3rd XV this year?
Don’t drop out of the Kings game next year and we might believe the program is taking itself seriously. Cranbrook have a good team every 5/6 years and claim to be world beaters, then go back wanting to play teams like Pius once they can’t be bothered to keep it going. They will get picked at CAS no doubt, they look like superstars with the teams they play, but last year showed the disaster that was.I know this year Cranbrook has 7 teams in the opens, which shows how much the program has grown over the last few years. I remember a time where Cranbrook could barely field a 3rd XV! Fielding 7 teams is great for a school that in recent times has been considered as a program with no depth. I think Cranbrook is slowly evolving into a higher quality rugby school (Especially with this years 1st XV) which is great news for all of CAS as it makes the competition more competitive instead of the same 3 teams always dominating.
I'm fairly certain kings dropped out of the trial game, claiming that 'they weren't ready for it, and needed more training.' So maybe check your sources before you make claims like that. This years team is also a significant improvement on last years outfit, with a few new faces around the squad and old faces with some experience under their belt.Don’t drop out of the Kings game next year and we might believe the program is taking itself seriously. Cranbrook have a good team every 5/6 years and claim to be world beaters, then go back wanting to play teams like Pius once they can’t be bothered to keep it going. They will get picked at CAS no doubt, they look like superstars with the teams they play, but last year showed the disaster that was.
Don’t worry mate, Pius will be ready for you next year at home.I'm fairly certain kings dropped out of the trial game, claiming that 'they weren't ready for it, and needed more training.' So maybe check your sources before you make claims like that. This years team is also a significant improvement on last years outfit, with a few new faces around the squad and old faces with some experience under their belt.
Relax Johnny, JJ is not a kid, and I think there is no need for anyone to have a crack at any of our schools, they are all terrific, may have some misgivings, BUT let's be honest, we all live in a bubble. Boys who attend any of these schools should ALL be grateful.Chances are you're a Waverley kid on a forum trying to troll people who actually want to discuss the CAS comp. College of knowledge never fails to make me laugh.