rod skellet
Bob Davidson (42)
Yes. Luca was the best no 8 going around. He had a cracking game against GPS in that epic game at St Josephs. 21 nil lead at half time. 21/19 fulltime thanks to Ben Brydon taking out Josep Souali.
CAS Rugby 2023
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Masked Crusader
Ward Prentice (10)
More rounds wouldn’t help if your starting point is NFI.
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Bob Davidson (42)
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Darby Loudon (17)
G'Day Rod, agree that boys should be completely left out of any discussions/criticisms re selections, similarly, blaming refs, Yes they make mistakes but are human and it's a thankless job, that's why they are diminishing.
Selectors on the other hand is a different issue. In defense of them, they are typically chosen, so whilst they may/may not get things right, they agree to do it, and so they have a duty to do their homework and get it as right as possible, because it does make a big difference.
Example, a mate of mine was at a Waves v Newington game way early in the year, a GPS dad, and was asking me who was who on the field, NOT his fault but REALLY! So he sees 1 game!
So I am not sure how robust their selection process really is, and of course, the political pull of the coaches. counts.
Then what happens is that teams can either get better as the season progresses or maybe worse. Waves is a classic example, not good early at all, but that was because half their team was on the sideline. Now they have beaten 2 strong CAS schools and have won their last 5 games with all players back. So based on the most current form, how does Waverley only get 2 players in the CAS 1s?
This analogy applies to any side in that position because basing positions on games over 6/7 games ago just doesn't cut it.
Furthermore, just as the GPS people will probably agree on their own front, we get it very wrong almost every year.
The process of selecting selectors needs to be better, understandably it will probably never be perfect, but way too many errors have occurred over the last few years IMO, others may disagree which is fine, but how we lost in 2021, with the talent on offer we had, was a joke.
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Darby Loudon (17)
No thx MC, would rather be tested against a few strong GPS schools and ISA schools, to improve our skills and see how good we really are, then play a few poor CAS schools twice and win by too much.
You are correct he did not play. 4 schoolboys in the 2 teams. And Waverley has 2 E’s
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Darby Loudon (17)
Spot on JJ!
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Darby Loudon (17)
Agree Rod, the CAS were dominant but nearly found a way to lose it, Brydons last tackle was very special.
As it turns out, he should never forget it! (and keep reminding his mates and kids!)
Famed_Star
Allen Oxlade (6)
I just want to use examples to highlight the selections issues.
Jonti M-F: a third year 1st XV player, best player on the ground on Saturday as voted by Barker, played CAS 2nd XV last year.
Not even listed as a shadow reserve. It is just a disrespectful decision. If the feedback is has been injured so we haven’t seen him. Go back and watch him from 2022 and 2021.
Kaleb Ah-Colt: Anniunced this afternoon at training. He has now been brought in to the starting 2nd XV as the captain. If that’s not highlighting that they have no idea what they’re doing, I don’t know what else does.
Charlie Poynton: after the opens CAS debacle last year. Charlie went to CAS u16’s last year and played for them in the wing. So he wasn’t even considered the best fullback at u16’s. But was for opens.
The CAS selection lottery continues.
There are now 9 Starting Barker players in the CAS 1’s and 2’s and 3 Waverley players. with 3 Waverley withdrawals and 1 Barker withdrawal.
So 10 Barker to 6 Waverley.
The selectors need to go back and watch the game from the weekend.
Waverley won by two tries, and if you were to pick a team between the two. There would be far more Waverley than Barker players selected based on results and the game.
Just ridiculous.
I also want to highlight, just so people are aware, coaches do have input on selections. And there are 4 Barker coaches. Hence despite losing, at home, by quite a margin, they still have a huge representation over Waverley.
Jonti M-F: a third year 1st XV player, best player on the ground on Saturday as voted by Barker, played CAS 2nd XV last year.
Not even listed as a shadow reserve. It is just a disrespectful decision. If the feedback is has been injured so we haven’t seen him. Go back and watch him from 2022 and 2021.
Kaleb Ah-Colt: Anniunced this afternoon at training. He has now been brought in to the starting 2nd XV as the captain. If that’s not highlighting that they have no idea what they’re doing, I don’t know what else does.
Charlie Poynton: after the opens CAS debacle last year. Charlie went to CAS u16’s last year and played for them in the wing. So he wasn’t even considered the best fullback at u16’s. But was for opens.
The CAS selection lottery continues.
There are now 9 Starting Barker players in the CAS 1’s and 2’s and 3 Waverley players. with 3 Waverley withdrawals and 1 Barker withdrawal.
So 10 Barker to 6 Waverley.
The selectors need to go back and watch the game from the weekend.
Waverley won by two tries, and if you were to pick a team between the two. There would be far more Waverley than Barker players selected based on results and the game.
Just ridiculous.
I also want to highlight, just so people are aware, coaches do have input on selections. And there are 4 Barker coaches. Hence despite losing, at home, by quite a margin, they still have a huge representation over Waverley.
Masked Crusader
Ward Prentice (10)
I have zero affiliation to any CAS school but I know the 16’s age group well having been involved with it across all levels since U6’s. I’ve just glanced at the CAS under 16 team list I am quite surprised. Some of the selections are fair enough but in certain positions there are some very strange omissions. Injuries? Politics? IDK. In contrast GPS have picked the best team available. There would be some differences in the GPS team if there were no injuries but that’s footy. The results will be interesting.
AroundTheAnkles
Dave Cowper (27)
Perhaps one of them does.
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Bob McCowan (2)
Hello guys, I’m predicting a whooping of GPS U16 v CAS U16.
Prediction CAS by 40+ in the final
Heard the Cas 10, Josh Barr is a freak. People call him the Line Assassin.
Footyfooty123 out.
Prediction CAS by 40+ in the final
Heard the Cas 10, Josh Barr is a freak. People call him the Line Assassin.
Footyfooty123 out.
bill clune
Bob McCowan (2)
Morning Gents, wondering who's going to the games tonight at Knox?
Masked Crusader
Ward Prentice (10)
Time will tell, I reckon an all GPS final is more likely but if it is GPS A vs CAS you might have your score prediction some what backwards.
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Darby Loudon (17)
Yep will be there, taking a car load up.
As Joker said, at least it won't be raining as it was in 2021 which destroyed our game, along with our front row selection, but it will be freezing.
I remember the days when these teams were chosen after all the comps were finished, that way selectors got a better look and we all knew who was who.
In tonights game, like recent years, we haven't seen more than half our teams play, the GPS have an advantage here.
So I am not sure what to expect from the CAS teams except that Knox and Barker did win their GPS games this year, but a lot can change since then, as we have seen.
However, rep footy is very different than school footy.
Union on Top
Peter Burge (5)
Will the games be free to air on NSW TV, or will we need to pay?
bill clune
Bob McCowan (2)
need to pay unfortunately