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CAS Rugby 2025

WLF3

WLF3

Billy Sheehan (19)
DaSchmooze said:
Yyyyyyyyyep. And every school has pointed to every other school as the culprit for that one vote.

Anyway. It's in the past but living in the aftermath of that vote wasn't fun.

I just hope that should it come to pass that if isa has a year or number of years where they dominate that we don't get a similar "we've put it to a vote" bullshit and the whole thing comes crashing down. It would be a backward step.
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DaS, I actually know which school wasn't in favour, if you wish to know, message me separately I will tell you. But it's not worth dwelling on now.
 
Crashy

Crashy

Alan Cameron (40)
I went to a CAS school and from what I've seen in the recent years, the ISA program ( depth) will be miles ahead in a few years. no doubt.
The CAS first teams perhaps will be ahead for obvious reasons, but the depth of the main ISA school beats pretty much every CAS school - except Waverley perhaps. Very sad to watch.
 
Maul of Duty

Maul of Duty

Larry Dwyer (12)
Don't be surprised if ISA schools start to go a lot more academic and not as much sport orientated (Oakhill for example). It is a slow process but there is definitely a shift to admissions be based on academic ability and many kids are being knocked back from attending the school even if they have siblings there.
 
DaSchmooze

DaSchmooze

Dave Cowper (27)
Crashy said:
I went to a CAS school and from what I've seen in the recent years, the ISA program ( depth) will be miles ahead in a few years. no doubt.
The CAS first teams perhaps will be ahead for obvious reasons, but the depth of the main ISA school beats pretty much every CAS school - except Waverley perhaps. Very sad to watch.
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It's going to make the weightings of each school's 1st teams very interesting when calculating who gets put into what division.
 
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Bob_Jones

Herbert Moran (7)
I honestly don't think it will make any difference (at the moment).

Under any weighting system, Waves are in the top 3.

If is it heavily weighted towards Opens, then Barker & Knox are also in the top 3.

It is more evenly weighted across the age groups, then I think Barker & Knox are still in the top 3. Sure they don't have the dominance at u13-14 level that they do in U16 & Opens, but they are on par with Trinity, Cranbook & Aloys in those age groups.

On the ISA side of things, Aug and Oakhill make the top 3 on any weighting system. The 3rd spot might be a bit interesting if heavily weighted towards Opens but suspect that Stannies would currently probably take the 3rd spot under any weighting system.
 
MaulMasterMind

MaulMasterMind

Stan Wickham (3)
The Shore v Barker game has been confirmed as a curtain-raiser for the Waratahs v Reds at Allianz Stadium. Friday, 9 May. Last time this was done was 2021? (Knox v Joeys?)
 
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Mule

Fred Wood (13)
Even being nervous of the repercussions as a Knox supporter, as the younger age groups are currently struggling before recruitment seems to help), I hope for the long term health of the code that a decent weighting of ranking points is given to the younger age groups…. Will hopefully then reinforce the need for all schools to focus younger with better resources (eg pre seasons [whilst still hopefully encouraging other sports participation], skills/positional specialists, nutrition etc)
 
Newitonga

Newitonga

Larry Dwyer (12)
MaulMasterMind said:
The Shore v Barker game has been confirmed as a curtain-raiser for the Waratahs v Reds at Allianz Stadium. Friday, 9 May. Last time this was done was 2021? (Knox v Joeys?)
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Just to confirm, I would be correct in saying this is the 2nd week of trials, so for the schools it would be 2nd week of Term 2?

Normally in this week/trial fixture Shore plays Knox and has done so for many consecutive years, and back when AAGPS was a single 5 round comp (instead of double 10 round that it is now), Shore would play Barker at a later trial fixture further into Term 2, but since GPS schools only have 2 weeks of trials now Shore no longer plays Barker, but Shore still plays Knox as they slot in that trial fixture just before round 1 of the GPS season.

Shore hasn't played Barker since 2021, however Shore 1sts opted out that year, mainly because the week prior Barker eminently beat Joeys at Hunters Hill, which during those years, the 'dark days' of Shore rugby, that would have inferred that shore would then be thrashed to a greater extent by Barker then they would be by Joeys, which during that period a blowout by Joeys happened annually each time Shore faced them in the GPS season, which the decision to forfeit against Barker was also likely reinforced by the apparent trauma from 2018 and 2019 of Shore vs Barker - which I was in attendance at both of those thrashings. I add, I believe that decision was also reinforced by the rumours of how heavily imported Barkers team was that year and how allegedly 13 of their 1st XV played NSW schoolboys, but that was likely another copout excuse that was likely just false, however there may be some truth in it, to an extent (but that's a conversation for another time).

Although, from memory Barker still got a game in that week and I believe played against Eastwood Colts.

However I did not agree with this decision by Shore at all, as I don't think at all it was in the spirit of the game, nor did I think Shore would have gotten mauled over as they would have speculated, as Riverview beat Barker that year by a couple points, and Shore lost to Riverview in round 1 of the GPS (final game to be played that year before covid) 36-12, which is a dominant display by Riverview, but not a thrashing, hence a similar score line, that is not so one-sided like years prior, likely would have eventuated if Shore 1sts played Barker 1sts that year


Does anybody have info on GPS vs CAS trials this year? Would that mean then if Shore plays Barker in trial fixture 2, that Shore does not play Knox this year, or has it been moved to trial fixture 1, which I think would be unlikely as Joeys plays Knox in that 1st trial week and has done so consistently for many years.

And the last time I know of that a curtain raiser was done for the Waratah's was Shore vs St Augustine's at Leichardt oval in 2022, which was the 1st trial fixture of that year, which was the same exact week as the Knox vs Joeys Tahs curtain raiser, just a year later, which makes sense. That 2022 curtain raiser Shore won 82-0 (just goes to show how things can change so drastically, to which that rugby program has).

Looking forward to this Barker vs Shore game then, as last year Shore 16A's played Barker in the Northern Territory as part of the Deadly Rugby program, which Shore 16A's won comfortably, although still a competitive match, and likely a rematch for many of those players then. I speculate it will be a great day of rugby considering we're getting a fixture that hasn't happened for many years, and then following that we can finally watch a Tahs team that is in good form and on track to win super rugby (I hope).

Also, GPS schools don't really ever get to play Friday night games, something I'm sure they're jealous of from the CAS competition. Will likely be a good crowd from both schools heading there straight from school, but will look miniscule in that stadium compared to the stands of their home grounds.

Anyway, enough of my spiel, anyone got info on GPS vs CAS trial games this year, even the ones that happen before term 2 in those holidays or late term 2 as more-so training fixtures. Cheers.
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
MaulMasterMind said:
The Shore v Barker game has been confirmed as a curtain-raiser for the Waratahs v Reds at Allianz Stadium. Friday, 9 May. Last time this was done was 2021? (Knox v Joeys?)
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Barker v View was pre a Tahs game at Leichardt but not sure of the year but was around then.

Love to see it. More value for money for those going to a Tahs game as well.
 
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