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Death of a Subbies Club

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
So, where are we at with the State Of The Union right now?

It looks from the outside like the Premier Clubs - except for Wildfires and Two Blues - are fielding their full complement of Grades + Colts AND we've got at least 3 clubs fielding a 4th Colts side in Div 3 every week:

Easts for Harlequins (several years now)
Gordon for Oysters
Marlins for Savers

Wouldn't be surprised if Warringah are similar in terms of numbers.

Eastwood told me they've got 80 bodies turning up to training every week for their Colts, so probably have enough to make 4th Colts a goer as well. They were surprised to learn about dual registration, which was in turn surprising to me as the contact is ex-Subbies as recently as last year.

That's 5 Premier Clubs hoarding Colts and you just know Sydney Uni cold trot out 4 or more Colts sides if they wanted. I hear they actually enforce a cutoff, which is to their credit if true.

Meanwhile I'm told that some clubs in the top 2 Divisions of Subbies are having trouble getting U21 on the park, including some of those contesting finals last year.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Updated list of Clubs Who Stopped After Renegades Started:

Oakhill Old Boys
Norwest
Killara West Pymble
Bankstown
Notre Dame Uni
St George
Liverpool
Fairvale/Lansvale
Roseville
Sydney Grammar Old Boys
Collaroy
Clovelly
Seaforth
ICMS
Terrey Hills
Dee Why
Engadine
Sydney Combined Forces
Hawkesbury Ag College
Menai
Lane Cove*
Brothers*
Rockdale (back 2023)

* currently in merger
 

Prodigy

Ron Walden (29)
Eastwood told me they've got 80 bodies turning up to training every week for their Colts, so probably have enough to make 4th Colts a goer as well. They were surprised to learn about dual registration, which was in turn surprising to me as the contact is ex-Subbies as recently as last year.
I'll call bullshit on some of these, not from your point of view, but from Eastwood.
1. 80 bodies, including the 16/17/18 year old who are about to go back to playing school rugby on a Saturday. They had a fourth grade colts game against Manly this past weekend, however, given a couple of schools are headed over to NZ for rugby tours, my guess is that it was a one off.
2. They know full well about dual registration. I spoke with them about it this year and have had dual registered players with them in the past.
 

Ref_Ted

Ward Prentice (10)
List of clubs who no longer play 1st grade in any division. Includes the last year they played and which Division it was.
ClubDivisionLast Yr
AppinDiv 5
2002​
Atiu SydneyDiv 5
2005​
BankstownDiv 6
2011​
BlakehurstDiv 4
2004​
Bronte SaversDiv 6
2007​
CampbelltownDiv 1
2014​
Christian Brothers Old BoysDiv 5
2022​
City WanderersDiv 6
2002​
ClaymoreDiv 6
2005​
ClovellyDiv 6
2014​
CollaroyDiv 6
2018​
Combined ForcesDiv 5
2021​
Dee WhyDiv 6
2020​
Dundas ValleyDiv 6
2018​
DuralDiv 5
2001​
EngadineDiv 5
2020​
Fairvale Old BoysDiv 6
2014​
Green ValleyDiv 6
2002​
HornsbyDiv 3
2014​
Hurlstone ParkDiv 5
2002​
ICMSDiv 6
2016​
Killara West PymbleDiv 5
2012​
Lane CoveDiv 6
2021​
LidcombeDiv 6
2005​
LiverpoolDiv 6
2012​
MacarthurDiv 6
2016​
MatravilleDiv 5
2005​
MenaiDiv 5
2022​
NorwestDiv 6
2009​
Notre DameDiv 5
2012​
OakhillDiv 6
2010​
PenrhynDiv 6
2001​
RosevilleDiv 6
2017​
SeaforthDiv 6
2012​
South Sydney NZDiv 6
2004​
St GeorgeDiv 6
2014​
Sydney ConvictsDiv 5
2019​
Sydney Grammar Old BoysDiv 6
2014​
Terrey HillsDiv 6
2017​
The VikingsDiv 1
2005​
UWS BankstownDiv 6
2006​
UWS HawkesburyDiv 4
2022​
West Sydney SaintsDiv 5
2001​
Western UnionDiv 6
2005​
WestsDiv 4
2006​
WollondillyDiv 5
2009​
 
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Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
For the 2024 thread @Ref_Ted ?

BTW Convicts are still active as "Colleagues." as opposed to "Colleagues"

CBOBS still exist as Brothers

Lane Cove still technically exist - joint venture with Iggies.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Wondering if anyone can help me with the following clubs I found reading old Annual Reports - home ground, any history etc.

Wests (Western Union?)

Atiu Sydney
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
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Nath

Bill Watson (15)
Wondering if anyone can help me with the following clubs I found reading old Annual Reports - home ground, any history etc.

Wests (Western Union?)

Atiu Sydney
Atiu played across road from Wills Ground I think.

That was 2004.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
20 years ago versus today
* Indicates the club isn't fielding standard config of teams
- indicates club no longer operates (21 of)

2004 Competition Tables
Division 1Today?
DrummoyneFirst Div
ColleaguesFirst Div
WaverleyFirst Div
UNSWSecond Div
Dundas Valley-
St PatsSecond Div
MosmanFirst Div
Old IggiesThird Div merged
ForestFirst Div
BeecroftSecond Div
Division 2
KnoxThird Div
Campbelltown- Illawarra
HornsbyFourth Div
St IvesFifth Div
NewportSecond Div
PetershamSecond Div
BlacktownFifth Div
Liverpool-
ChatswoodFourth Div
Division 3
BrothersMerged/Colts
BriarsSecond Div
BarkerThird Div
EppingSecond Div*
KingsFourth Div
Hawkesbury ValleyThird Div
Blue MountainsFirst Div
Hunters HillFirst Div
St George-
Lane CoveMerged
Division 4
Bankstown-
HillsSecond Div*
Fairvale-
Mac UniFifth Div
MerrylandsThird Div*
UWSH (HAC)-
OatleyFifth Div
Blakehurst-
CanterburyFourth Div
Division 5
Roseville-
Matraville-
Terrey Hills-
BurraneerFifth Div
Rockdale-
Oakhill-
Atiu Sydney-
Engadine-
Division 6
Claymore-
Lidcombe-
Sydney HarlequinsThird Div*
Manly SaversFifth Div
Western Union-
Killara-West Pymble-
UWS Bankstown-
South Sydney-
 
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Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Ten years ago versus today...

2014 Competition Tables
Division 1Today?
St PatsSecond Div
DrummoyneFirst Div
BalmainFifth Div
MosmanFirst Div
ColleaguesFirst Div
PetershamSecond Div
KnoxThird Div
Old IggiesThird Div merged
BeecroftSecond Div
CampbelltownIllawarra
Division 2
NewportSecond Div
BrothersMerged/Colts
ForestFirst Div
Hunters HillFirst Div
UNSWSecond Div
BarkerThird Div
LindfieldFirst Div
OatleyFifth Div
Blue MountainsFirst Div
St IvesFifth Div
Division 3
UWSH/HAC-
HillsSecond Div
WaverleyFirst Div
EppingSecond Div*
Hawkesbury ValleyThird Div
KingsFourth Div
BriarsSecond Div
HornsbyFourth Div
Division 4
RedfieldFourth Div
BlacktownFifth Div
Sydney HarlequinsThird Div
CanterburyFourth Div
IrishThird Div*
ConvictsFifth Div
Mac UniFifth Div
RenegadesFourth Div
Division 5
Not run
Division 6
MerrylandsThird Div*
Roseville-
Terrey Hills-
ChatswoodFourth Div
Manly SaversFifth Div
Lane CoveMerged
ICMS-
Dundas Valley-
 
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