Rocky Elsom (76)
As a matter of interest is your interest in reducing the tread count because there are too many threads that have very similar themes or is it more to do with site logistics or neither?So, just to clarify..
The changes are already in place - so if you can threadstart now, you're a threadstarter - a twisted threadstarter.
Basically the idea is that once you've become a valued member of the community, you get the right to start threads. This should be a right we value, because by starting a thread, you are inviting people to spend their valuable time in it.
If you start threads of questionable value you'll get a heads up, and after that if you keep going you could get the keys taken away. Fair enough I'd say.
Should a new joiner want to start a thread, they just put their idea forward - it's physically no harder then starting a thread is now. If they put a couple of good ideas forward, they'll no doubt get given the keys as well.
Will it reduce the thread count? I hope so. My favourite restaurants are those with short menus - because I know the quality of those choices will be high. Other people like the opposite - fair enough, there are other restaurants.
Any chance we can move important/imminent matches to the Rugby Discussion forum (i.e. Bled 3) temporarily.
Bit of a pain having to jump forums to check the latest posts when it is a pretty central discussion?
You can start threads as normal. Many can.
I have created the thread and moved the posts.
Where to start.For me that was the source of confusion - I got the impression a short list of mods/quasi mods would have posting rights. I have no issue with lurkers having to earn their stripes as it were, as there is the option of the suggested thread to achieve said stripes.
And I am all for us reducing the noise and improving the posts that aspire to Lee Grant quality. I think most of us are.
But I continue to be concerned at some of the moderation recently. It is well intended but isn't (imo) addressing the underlying driver I believe the mods are trying to address. Some posters here (and yes, I am going to pick the low fruit; reds aligned posters) repeatedly push an agenda without regard to the broader view. When a poster reacts directly to that provincialism, the upshot is they get banned. Personally I think warnings were sufficient. And I include some of the kiwi stirrers. To moderate well means being even handed. I can think of a few occasions here where a noted mod has posted controversial posts I saw as baiting only to then see other persons who reacted getting banned. That makes me want to come here less. A fora is for sharing and exchanging views, they won't always agree.
Another area might be the anti-Deans pro-Deans camp. There are genuine reasons to support him as the coach short term, yet the site (or one or two high impact individuals for the site?) pushes a firm anti-Deans agenda.
I don't intend to get into a debate on it, just my 2cents for consideration.
Where to start.
Firstly, I have posted in this thread multiple times to the effect that people should not over-react to the changes and that many posters would be able to post as normal. Have a look back, and it is there. I can only say it so many times. I'll say it again - most, if not all, who have raised this issue have exactly the same rights as before.
Secondly, with all due respect, you have no idea of what comes across our "desk" every day to be moderated, nor what actually happens behind the scenes with respect to messages, hints, suggestions and then warnings. Not to mention the discussion between moderators regarding who gets sanctioned, when and how. And no, I am not really going to go into detail about it here... ...People don't get banned for having a different viewpoint, they get banned for starting, or continuing shit fights, for repetitive trolling, for personal abuse at members or public figures and so on.
If you, or anyone, has a concern about anything, report the post, or PM me (unless I am the evil one who baits and smites people, in which case PM someone else in the moderators).
I really don't want to buy into the Deans thing, but we (mods) don't all agree on everything. I, for one, find the repetitive McCaw is a Bloody Cheat stuff pretty tiresome. But others can differ.