Headgear cam in QLD Premier Rugby

[East Coast Aces]

An article in the Sunday Mail revealed Damon Murphy had secretly worn a camera in his headgear this season.
This could be an awesome tool for coaching and analysis and even better for TV viewing.

Is there any chance we can get some footage of this on the site?

 

[Red Heavy]

 

[Jets]

Good work Red Heavy
I'd love to see what it looked like on his head.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

This could be an awesome tool for coaching and analysis and even better for TV viewing.

Interesting.
I cant see it catching on for TV purposes - I guess there might be 1 play a game where the head movement doesnt prevent you from working out what is going on.
Surely its illegal.

 

[SouthernX]

I would love to see a Bakkies Botha headcam. Would be like playing a 1 player shootem up (such as Duke Nukum)

blood and guts flying everywhere.

 

[East Coast Aces]

Interesting.
I cant see it catching on for TV purposes - I guess there might be 1 play a game where the head movement doesnt prevent you from working out what is going on.
Surely its illegal.

It only needs one great play ever to be worth it for TV viewing. But im sure it can come up with one great play a game if its on the head of a great player.

I just wish it was on Mortlocks head for that intercept try in the World Cup semi against the all blacks in 2003.

 

[SouthernX]

I think the headgear might of been chosen for Damon Murphy to be the Geini Rat because he plays fullback & coaches wanna get how formations 9 thru 14 are keeping their backline formation discipline.

 

[en_force_er]

I'm amazed they got a mic in there too.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I think the headgear might of been chosen for Damon Murphy to be the Geini Rat because he plays fullback & coaches wanna get how formations 9 thru 14 are keeping their backline formation discipline.

But it must breach the laws of the game because no camera could be made of a sufficiently soft material (I assume) for it to pass muster:
Law 4.4(c): A player must not wear any items containing buckles, clips, rings, hinges, zippers, screws,
bolts or rigid material or projection not otherwise permitted under this Law.
(g) A player must not wear any other item which does not conform with the IRB Specifications
for such clothing (Regulation 12)
Reg 12:
(g) Headgear*
A player may wear headgear made of soft and thin materials provided that
no part of the headgear is thicker than 1cm when uncompressed and no
part of the headgear has a density of more than 45 kilograms per cubic
metre.
http://www.irbplayerwelfare.com/?documentid=52

This thread will, no doubt, lead to an investigation by the QRU - before you know it players will be wearing headgear with earpieces so the coach (or others) can give them instructions in real time: that would be a shit house development.

 

[SouthernX]

I like the earpiece idea honestly. but then again I am an avid follower of the NFL as well & I can see how the rugby purists might be skeptical of new technology being bought into the game.

I don't think the QRU will do anything either in regards to an investigation.
It would be silly if the referees checked the players studs and then gave a head massage of all the players wearing headgears to feel for secret cameras. (i honestly don't even think you'd notice being hit by one of these headgears with a camera)

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I like the earpiece idea honestly. but then again I am an avid follower of the NFL as well & I can see how the rugby purists might be skeptical of new technology being bought into the game.

I don't think the QRU will do anything either in regards to an investigation.
It would be silly if the referees checked the players studs and then gave a head massage of all the players wearing headgears to feel for secret cameras. (i honestly don't even think you'd notice being hit by one of these headgears with a camera)

I like the earpiece idea honestly. but then again I am an avid follower of the NFL as well & I can see how the rugby purists might be skeptical of new technology being bought into the game.

I don't think the QRU will do anything either in regards to an investigation.
It would be silly if the referees checked the players studs and then gave a head massage of all the players wearing headgears to feel for secret cameras. (i honestly don't even think you'd notice being hit by one of these headgears with a camera)

I am an NFL fan too and I try to keep an open mind in relation to technological developments: i still remember when the players had to stay on the field at 1/2 time and, in test matches, the coach wasnt allowed on the field.
But ear pieces????

 

[East Coast Aces]

But it must breach the laws of the game because no camera could be made of a sufficiently soft material (I assume) for it to pass muster:
Law 4.4(c): A player must not wear any items containing buckles, clips, rings, hinges, zippers, screws,
bolts or rigid material or projection not otherwise permitted under this Law.
(g) A player must not wear any other item which does not conform with the IRB Specifications
for such clothing (Regulation 12)
Reg 12:
(g) Headgear*
A player may wear headgear made of soft and thin materials provided that
no part of the headgear is thicker than 1cm when uncompressed and no
part of the headgear has a density of more than 45 kilograms per cubic
metre.
http://www.irbplayerwelfare.com/?documentid=52

This thread will, no doubt, lead to an investigation by the QRU - before you know it players will be wearing headgear with earpieces so the coach (or others) can give them instructions in real time: that would be a shit house development.

Geez I hope not. Sick of all this nanny state stuff. Can't switch hit, can't wear headgear cam, can't ruck, can't shoulder charge blah blah blah. We are becoming too pety, soft and boring. We don't play Rugby to be told what to do, we play Rugby to see what we can get away with.

It obviously didn't harm anybody nor do I think it could and I highly doubt we will see a proliferation of this in Club Rugby. As far as I am concern it is no different to trying out new rules in Club Rugby.

Just let the boys plays.

 

[SouthernX]

I imagine its a pricey bit of equipment. Small espionage camera that I imagine could be subjected to damage upon contact? Brothers dont have the kind of money to be throwing around where they could use this camera as an onfield weapon which they simply replace game to game... Sunnybank or UQ on the other hand ;-)

 

[East Coast Aces]

I imagine its a pricey bit of equipment. Small espionage camera that I imagine could be subjected to damage upon contact? Brothers dont have the kind of money to be throwing around where they could use this camera as an onfield weapon which they simply replace game to game. Sunnybank or UQ on the other hand ;-)

The article made it seem like it was more of test/guinea pig for the inventor rather then something that has been initiated and financed by the club.

I knew this would put peoples noses out of joint here. I just hoped that the possibilities of this technology would excite most of us and perhaps see Fox Sports trial it next year.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

It obviously didn't harm anybody nor do I think it could

neither is the correct the test

 

[East Coast Aces]

neither is the correct the test

That was my point.

 

[happyjack]

The purpose is really only beneficial for training. As the test demonstrates there is too much movement activity and you would get better end on perspective from a camera placed on the goal posts from end on.
The Rebels had these at last year's preseason training and the best option for training feedback are the spy vision glasses because they actually film from the eye and the USB stick is easily removed and changed for download.
In a training environment you can use this to aid players with decision making activities. The Rebels had 1st receivers wearing them.
Similar to driving training you are more interested in what the player saw than the decision they made. Did they scan to see the options? If you don't see the space it doesn't exist for practical application.
Combining this footage in a split screen with a broader elevated end on that is match for time is a powerful tool for improving visual intake and decision making.
Quite cheap too. Glasses are less than $50 and specialist sports camera set ups that are used in sports such as swimming are in the hundreds of dollars including TV and hard drive.