IRB Rankings post RWC2011

[FANATIC]

Just say via Twitts that

Wallabies sitting on 2nd


Wales on 8th


Now even the most one eyed Wallaby supporter has to know that this just don't seem to sit right.

 

[waratahjesus]

is there a link to them somewhere, i gave up trying to understand them a long time ago.

when does the draw for RWC2015 get done, its a few years out isnt it?

 

[Braveheart81]

is there a link to them somewhere, i gave up trying to understand them a long time ago.

http://www.irb.com/rankings/full.html

 

[FANATIC]

I clearly do not understand the IRB ranking system.

If we beat a team who is ranked higher than us do we go up...ergo...lesser team we go down?

 

[Braveheart81]

Just say via Twitts that

Wallabies sitting on 2nd

Wales on 8th

Now even the most one eyed Wallaby supporter has to know that this just don't seem to sit right.

One of the silly nuances of the rating system is that there is no bonus for making the semi finals of the RWC for Wales as the results are based on each individual game.

Whilst Wales won their quarter final, they then lost the semi and the third vs fourth playoff. Effectively, they are no better off than the teams that lost in the quarter final.

 

[FANATIC]

I know I have a soft spot for the Welsh but this just does not seem fair.
but since when have the IRB been fair.... angryfire: over french fine)

 

[Crow]

I clearly do not understand the IRB ranking system.
If we beat a team who is ranked higher than us do we go up...ergo...lesser team we go down?

Points are exchanged on the basis of the difference in points. Beat a higher ranked team and get lots of points, a lower ranked team and get a few points, a much lower team (e.g. Aus vs. Scotland, or NZ vs. England) and you don't get any.

Wales dropped because they lost to France, who was ranked below them. Because the teams are so condensed in the 5-8 positions, any change at all will make a major difference to your standing.

 

[FANATIC]

cheers for that

 

[chequebalance]

http://www.irb.com/rankings/explain/index.html

 

[kiap]

An alternative system (Roon Ba):

1 	New Zealand        5236 	
2 	Australia 	   5073 	
3 	South Africa       5028 	
4 	Wales   	   4967 	
5 	France 	           4965 	
6 	England   	   4901 	
7 	Ireland 	   4885 	
8 	Argentina 	   4798 	
9 	Scotland 	   4703 	
10 	Samoa 	           4615 	
11 	Italy 	           4568 	
12 	Tonga 	           4566 	
13 	Canada 	           4405 	
14 	Japan 	           4398 	
15 	Fiji 	           4369 	
16 	Georgia 	   4333 	
17 	USA 	           4244 	
18 	Romania 	   4172 	
19 	Russia 	           4040 	
20 	Portugal 	   4005

http://roonba.com/rugbyunion/rank/world.html