Proposed Nations Championship

[Rebel man]

£60,833,333.33 for their share.

Would six nations fans travel to game as regularly as other test match series?

If you think how much money governments pay for tourism opportunities and to support tours like the Lions tours (I am not directly comparing Lions to 6N) and other inbound tours from lesser nations then a single payoff to ensure more visiting teams and their supporters every year then the price seems pretty cheap to me.

No the £365,000,000 is a one seventh share in the 6 nations

 

[Rebel man]

Emphatic Six Nations statement ends Springboks entry speculation

The Six Nations have issued a statement confirming that they have no intention of adding or replacing any team in the competition.

www.rugbypass.com

South Africa may want the 6 nations but the 6 nations don’t want them

 

[kiap]

If Italy are part owner, they’re entitled to their share. Similar things have happened in other sports, NBA paid a team a share of revenue who didn’t play for 30 years.

Just looked this one up (an article from 10 years back). The owners were absolutely laughing! ...

NBA Still Paying Owners Of Defunct ABA Team

Daniel and Ozzie Silna have earned about $255 million in NBA TV revenues in the last 32 years—and they don’t even own a team. The former owners of a defunct ABA team still reap the benefits of a deal made in 1976. Bill Littlefield talked with the New York Times’ Richard Sandomir about the...

www.wbur.org

 

[Adam84]

Just looked this one up (an article from 10 years back). The owners were absolutely laughing! ...

NBA Still Paying Owners Of Defunct ABA Team

Daniel and Ozzie Silna have earned about $255 million in NBA TV revenues in the last 32 years—and they don’t even own a team. The former owners of a defunct ABA team still reap the benefits of a deal made in 1976. Bill Littlefield talked with the New York Times’ Richard Sandomir about the...

www.wbur.org

Yeah $30million a year for nothing. I think the NBA have paid them a settlement since then and its no longer the case.
Edit: $500million buyout in 2014

 

[liquor box]

Just looked this one up (an article from 10 years back). The owners were absolutely laughing! ...

NBA Still Paying Owners Of Defunct ABA Team

Daniel and Ozzie Silna have earned about $255 million in NBA TV revenues in the last 32 years—and they don’t even own a team. The former owners of a defunct ABA team still reap the benefits of a deal made in 1976. Bill Littlefield talked with the New York Times’ Richard Sandomir about the...

www.wbur.org

I think Newtown had a similar deal, or maybe a board membership for a while after they left the league, I will try to look for a link.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

According to The Times (the one that doesn't feel the need to specify where it's domiciled) it's on the Agenda for World Rugby Council Wednesday morning:

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[Dan54]

According to The Times (the one that doesn't feel the need to specify where it's domiciled) it's on the Agenda for World Rugby Council Wednesday morning:

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Was just reading that before WOB, and still trying to make up my mind if it will be good or bad, if they can get agreement from all. Could be tasty, and will surely makew a global season get worked out.

 

[Dan54]

And wouldn't it be the end of Lions tours?

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^ the last overview of it I saw had it being played in even-numbered years only so not necessarily.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

It seems like a formalisation of the current set up into a Championship every two years. It's not that much of a stretch from the current situation. Being separate from the 6N and RC it will be interesting to see if the P/R function that's been proposed presents any issues.

 

[Dctarget]

Apologies if I don't quite have it, but it just sounds like TRC expanded with Japan & Fiji, the winner of expanded TRC plays off against the winner of the Six Nations? Australia won't play a round robin against the home nations?

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^ TRC & 6N played in their existing windows, cross-over matches in July & November. Sounds like no SF so it only adds a week to the November window rather than two which will help get the Clubs on board.

 

[Dctarget]

the Guardian has a better explanation:

The competition would involve the Six Nations – England, France, Ireland, Italy, Scotland and Wales – in the north while Australia, Argentina, Fiji, New Zealand and South Africa would be joined in the south by Japan, even though it is in the northern hemisphere. European teams would play three matches on their summer tours against three different opponents and face the remaining three southern nations at home in November. The top two in each pool would meet each other in a fourth week in November and it is understood there is some support for a finals day involving all teams, rather than a single fixture between the top two sides.

So, we do play all the NH teams, then the top SH team will play the top NH team again

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

the Guardian has a better explanation:


So, we do play all the NH teams, then the top SH team will play the top NH team again

Bottom ranked team competes in a relegation playoff against the winner of the Challenger Series. Which is probably why they aren't integrating the 6Ns into the overall structure.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

There's actually a few options for finals and P/R. One involves the top 2 from the two pools (however they are determined) playing in the a finals series. There's apparently interest in a 'Finals Day/Weekend' which would feature 6 games with rankings on the line. And for P/R the favourite options seems to be two relegation games. One for the NH (so if Italy comes last they could play Georgia) and one for the SH (say Fiji vs Samoa). There's also possibly of crossover games in the 'odd' years against teams from the Challenger Series while the Lions are touring etc. Which interests me.

 

[Adam84]

I’ll be interested to see what the revenue sharing agreement is, thats what this is all about after all and the main reason it will fail to get up.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^ no profit sharing no deal IMO.

 

[Wilson]

^ no profit sharing no deal IMO.

Particularly with any finals set to be in the Northern Hemisphere, profit sharing almost needs to favor the southern hemisphere teams at that point.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

^ no profit sharing no deal IMO.

In the original article it's mentioned it could see revenues increase by 40% with the prospect of that being higher. If so, then a compromise could be an appearance fee paid to nations that are the away team.

Unless the increase in revenue is significant enough to be able to divvy it up equally.

 

[Rebel man]

In the original article it's mentioned it could see revenues increase by 40% with the prospect of that being higher. If so, then a compromise could be an appearance fee payed to nations that are the away team.

Unless the increase in revenue is significant enough to be able to divvy it up equally.

40% more for Aus though is still huge. Helps us get back up of the canvas