League Targets

[PhilClinton]

I don’t want to get too ahead of myself, but you’d think the managers of these NRL guys would have approached RA with something along the lines ‘if this R360 thing goes pear shaped do you think my guy can get a run somewhere’. Or perhaps Tindall has NH clubs underwriting them, probably the next best outcome.

The NRL are all bark no bite. Maybe someone like Lomax might end up having to run around in Japan for a while but guys like Haas would find their way back into a team pretty quickly.

Players in the PI community can also be pretty loyal and they wouldn’t risk having a few players stick with the likes of Haas and further damage the game.

Depending who you talk to, it’s a situation like that which caused Kerevi to sign outside Australia about a month after Folau was released back in 2019.

 

[Upthemaroon!]

Will RA still stick to their non R360 selection policies if players with the stature of Haas, Lomax or Papenhuyzen make that jump? Would (almost) be silly not to.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

The NRL are all bark no bite. Maybe someone like Lomax might end up having to run around in Japan for a while but guys like Haas would find their way back into a team pretty quickly.

Talent always has a home. Some sides may be all stoic and tough but the moment a guy like Haas is back available half the sides will lobby the NRL to forgive and forget as we should always want the best players.

French Billionaires will also not give AF about national bodies positions.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Will RA still stick to their non R360 selection policies if players with the stature of Haas, Lomax or Papenhuyzen make that jump? Would (almost) be silly not to.

Haas is arguably the most devastating contact sport athlete in the world. A guy of his size can play 80mins in a League Front Row.

If Rugby had a shot at home who fucking cares who’s nose might be out of joint. Be a better player then.

 

[KOB1987]

The NRL are all bark no bite. Maybe someone like Lomax might end up having to run around in Japan for a while but guys like Haas would find their way back into a team pretty quickly.

Players in the PI community can also be pretty loyal and they wouldn’t risk having a few players stick with the likes of Haas and further damage the game.

Depending who you talk to, it’s a situation like that which caused Kerevi to sign outside Australia about a month after Folau was released back in 2019.

The ‘Haas Law’….if you’re Payne Haas you are exempt from the 10 year ban.

Agree though, V’landys (the horse racing guy) didn’t really think that one through (like most things he does) and there has been a fair bit of pushback about it from the clubs.

 

[Upthemaroon!]

Haas is arguably the most devastating contact sport athlete in the world. A guy of his size can play 80mins in a League Front Row.

If Rugby had a shot at home who fucking cares who’s nose might be out of joint. Be a better player then.

Match up of Pieter-Steph du Toit against Payne Haas.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Haas is already plays between 115-120kg. With less running required he could sit at 125kg in Rugby at least and run over guys.

I don’t know how you’d stop him close to the line. Palu was massive but moved like his size. Haas is massive with Centre speed over 20-30m

 

[Major Tom]

Haas is already plays between 115-120kg. With less running required he could sit at 125kg in Rugby at least and run over guys.

I don’t know how you’d stop him close to the line. Palu was massive but moved like his size. Haas is massive with Centre speed over 20-30m

Did he play union at school?

 

[Adam84]

The ‘Haas Law’….if you’re Payne Haas you are exempt from the 10 year ban.

Agree though, V’landys (the horse racing guy) (the horse racing guy) didn’t really think that one through (like most things he does) and there has been a fair bit of pushback about it from the clubs.

100%, Haas won’t be banned for 10years if he put his hand up to return.. no fucken way in hell would they turn him down especially with the added profile he would bring back if he did

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Did he play union at school?

Don’t think so. Well nothing that split his focus from League as kid in Newcastle.

 

[KOB1987]

Apparently the grand plan to stop Haas from defecting is to offer him tax free dollars to move to Papua New Guinea.....

Spain or Miami might offer more appeal.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Yeah, for a guy who supports his entire family at 24 I don't think he'll want to bring younger brothers etc to PNG either. The Cheifs while offering tax relief for salaries also have a cap and to offer Haas 2m+ will cripple the sides ability to put together a roster. It'd be Haas and a bunch of Q Cup players... The beauty of no tax was going to be the fact they can offer equivalent rates but you keep more...

Someone in Brisbane will offer Haas a chunk of Broncos stock and a million third party deals. I think he's a must keep for the NRL but also don't believe it would lead to a death spiral or 10 year ban. Haas is like SBW who was eventually adored again.

 

[PhilClinton]

Speaking with some authority on the matter - the tax relief situation for the PNG side is far from a done deal. In fact I'd say the R360 contracts are actually worth more in terms of being a real thing than guaranteed tax relief from the NRL.

 

[PhilClinton]

Someone in Brisbane will offer Haas a chunk of Broncos stock and a million third party deals. I think he's a must keep for the NRL but also don't believe it would lead to a death spiral or 10 year ban. Haas is like SBW who was eventually adored again.

IF r360 absolutely becomes an issue for them - I wouldn't be surprised to see the NRL move to a cap-free marquee player model where each team can nominate 1 or 2 guys who just get loaded to the brim with third party deals and additional salary.

Let's the NRL at least remain competitive in terms of keeping their best 20-40 players in the game.

 

[Highlander35]

Isn't the income tax situation in whichever union their registered in (Qatar) something extremely low like 10% anyway? Not sure how much more benefit you could proscribe.

 

[PhilClinton]

Isn't the income tax situation in whichever union their registered in (Qatar) something extremely low like 10% anyway? Not sure how much more benefit you could proscribe.

Fairly sure Qatar don't impose income tax at all.

But it could also be dependent on the residency arrangements of each individual. Based on the nature of R360 I'm not sure there is any notion that players would be relocating on a permanent basis.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Isn't the income tax situation in whichever union their registered in (Qatar) something extremely low like 10% anyway? Not sure how much more benefit you could proscribe.

Dubai.

 

[Major Tom]

IF r360 absolutely becomes an issue for them - I wouldn't be surprised to see the NRL move to a cap-free marquee player model where each team can nominate 1 or 2 guys who just get loaded to the brim with third party deals and additional salary.

Let's the NRL at least remain competitive in terms of keeping their best 20-40 players in the game.

That opens a can of worms by helping the rich clubs get better. You keep your stars but the equalisation is affected.

 

[Adam84]

Australian Tax Residency requirements and moving overseas to places like Dubai have changed and aren't as straightforward as they used to be; the same issue will exsist with PNG. These aren't quick cash-grabs, you are committing to a life of at least 2 years in those countries with limited trips back to Australia.

Moving to these countries purely for the season and then returning to Australia for the off-season won't cut it, the players will need to effectively give up residency in Australia, which covers a variety of factors, including time spent in Australia(trips back), duration gone from Australia and any income derived within Australia(investments, endorsements, sponsorships etc)