Melbourne Rebels 2024

[Rebel man]

Not all down to RA, Rebels Board have more than their fair share of blame in racking up a $20milion debt, including in an areas like unpaid staff superannuation.

When has RA ever been competent? Never

Why are all the clubs in debt? Because RA can not even afford to fund the minimum salary spend that they require the clubs to pay. It is pathetic.

Rugby Australia is the most incompetent organisation in Australian sport

 

[Adam84]

Option C, and potentially the most likely for Rebels survival IMO; is a scrutinisation of Rebels outgoings and cost-cuttings across the board, Rebels and RA enter some joint services agreement facilitated by PwC, which reduces operating deficit to a more reasonable figure, ownership and debt remains seperate from RA, and RA lift the grant to the Rebels.

I’d say one of the biggest concerns of RA in this is assuming liability of the Rebels debt and pushing themselves into administration.

 

[Adam84]

When has RA ever been competent? Never

Why are all the clubs in debt? Because RA can not even afford to fund the minimum salary spend that they require the clubs to pay. It is pathetic.

Rugby Australia is the most incompetent organisation in Australian sport

it’s been covered previously, but the deficit you‘re referring to here between the RA grant and 90% of salary cap amount to to around $5million? The point is Rebels still have another $15*million in debt outside of this, so yes absoutely the Rebels Board have some answering to do for this mess

 

[stoff]

I’m all for blaming RA and their mismanagement of the game, but let’s not forget the Rebels board off in this shit fight, it’s gross negligence in what they’ve done and how they managed the club.

They’re in for $17m or so - can’t think of many other groups tipping that much in to rugby.

 

[Rebel man]

it’s been covered previously, but the deficit you‘re referring to here between the RA grant and 90% of salary cap amount to to around $5million? The point is Rebels still have another $15*million in debt outside of this, so yes absoutely the Rebels Board have some answering to do for this mess

The Rebels also incurred the most costs being on the road for two years. Phill Waugh needs to stand down, his appointment was embarrassing to begin with. He was the last thing Rugby Australia needed, another Sydney private school wanker with no experience in sports administration.

You know GWS and Gold Coast get almost two and a half times what Collingwood or Richmond get, why? Because the AFL understands that in expansion markets the clubs have higher costs and reduced revenue. It isn’t rocket science

 

[Adam84]

They’re in for $17m or so - can’t think of many other groups tipping that much in to rugby.

Not unless you’re referring to the ATO decision to make the Rebels board personally liable for the clubs tax debt.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Phill Waugh needs to stand down,

another Sydney private school wanker with no experience in sports administration.

 

[stoff]

Not unless you’re referring to the ATO decision to make the Rebels board personally liable for the clubs tax debt.

Loans and personal liabilities (ATO etc)

 

[Rebel man]

Made it clear at the time we should have got someone from the outside and as this mess drags on it’s just more and more evident that he is incompetent. He couldn’t even get Rob Leota’s name right. Probably felt nervous talking to a public schoolboy for the first time in his life

 

[Adam84]

Loans and personal liabilities

not sure been issued a director penalty notice to be held personally liable for a unpaid ATO debt really counts as ‘tipping in’ to rugby though

 

[stoff]

not sure been issued a director penalty notice to be held personally liable for a unpaid ATO debt really counts as ‘tipping in’ to rugby though

It kept the team going and they’re going to be paying for it. $17m of tax debt and loans has got to be a few years worth.

 

[Rebel man]

It kept the team going and they’re going to be paying for it. $17m of tax debt and loans has got to be a few years worth.

Let them just keep blaming the Rebels while keeping their heads in the sand about the clowns at RA

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Let them just keep blaming the Rebels while keeping their heads in the sand about the clowns at RA

Quick question. Did the Rebels receive any less than the other Super Rugby franchises?

 

[Rebel man]

Quick question. Did the Rebels receive any less than the other Super Rugby franchises?

Why is it the GWS Giants get 2.5 times the amount of Collingwood from the AFL? Because it’s understood that clubs in expansion markets need greater levels of funding as there are higher costs and reduced revenue streams.

While Pridham is a fair way off the mark currently he says he believes it’s inevitable that Sydney Swans will become the biggest sports club in Australia and that wouldn’t have happened without 30 years of AFL hand outs. In an era where they were willing to let clubs die. There was no financial aid through the late 80s and 90s when clubs like Hawthorn, Richmond, Footscray, Fitzroy, North and even Collingwood when they were in financial strife yet each year they propped up Sydney. Sydney has been a great inclusion for the AFL

 

[Jimmy_Crouch]

You aren’t offering up a solution. The solution is having a team in Melbourne

Neither are you. All you have said on the last 50 pages of this thread is that it's RAs fault.

We get it and agree that things from an RA perspective could have been better but for you to not think that the rebels arent culpable for any of this mess is a joke.

 

[Rebel man]

Neither are you. All you have said on the last 50 pages of this thread is that it's RAs fault.

We get it and agree that things from an RA perspective could have been better but for you to not think that the rebels are culpable for any of this mess is a joke.

So you chronically under fund a team and act all shocked when they go broke.

I tell you what is a joke the fucking incompetent clown Phil Waugh saying on the ABC it won’t affect the pathways in Melbourne when anyone on the ground here knows it will kill them completely. There is a complete disregard the attitude from Waugh and RA is simply “fuck them” when the hypocrite talks about reconnecting with community. Only community he is reconnecting with are old boys in Sydney’s eastern suburbs.

The only solution is to properly fund the side so they can grow the game. If we are unable to do that we need to exit super rugby all together and live within our means and build a completion from there.

 

[KevinO]

It's not RA fault, but there hands are not clean. Why won't they release the figures of the Tahs bail out, why won't they release the cost blowout of the Wallabies world cup?

 

[Rebel man]

It's not RA fault, but there hands are not clean. Why won't they release the figures of the Tahs bail out, why won't they release the cost blowout of the Wallabies world cup?

Rugby in this country has been run into the ground since the game has turned professional. One incompetent administration has followed the next. The only sound decision I can remember RA ever making was to start funding the women’s 7’s program equal to the men’s before all the other nations did so we got the jump on them and won the Olympic Gold. Every thing else has been one train wreck after another

The sad thing is so many people in Melbourne don’t know the Rebels are going to die because they never knew they existed in the first place.

So many times when I meet people and tell them I like rugby they tell me “I watch the storm some times”

When the AFL launched the Suns and Giants they made sure every sports fan new about them

 

[Snowy]

The Rebels also incurred the most costs being on the road for two years. Phill Waugh needs to stand down, his appointment was embarrassing to begin with. He was the last thing Rugby Australia needed, another Sydney private school wanker with no experience in sports administration.

You know GWS and Gold Coast get almost two and a half times what Collingwood or Richmond get, why? Because the AFL understands that in expansion markets the clubs have higher costs and reduced revenue. It isn’t rocket science

I'll give you the big tip The Force weren't at home ether for that time - and they could not get in their cars and drive north like the Rebels boys did / had too

 

[Snowy]

They’re in for $17m or so - can’t think of many other groups tipping that much in to rugby.

Twiggy ? - and your board didnt tip that much in but it might be what they are liable for due to their incompetence as board members