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NSW AAGPS 2018

Tip the 2018 AAGPS 1st XV Premiers


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Sydney Middleton (9)
Charlie is a wonderful footballer however I believe there are a few No 10''s are in front of him 2 of which are Minogue and Creagh . Charlie has a great forward pack in front of him paving the way, I don't see enough breaks from him ,kicks and setting up breaks good luck to him with the good team he has around him but I would like to see how he would perform with a less the forward pack he has had in front of him the last couple of years, having said that I think Edmed is a step up in class from them all including Donaldson and Harrison from last year


Strange post Keenas after 8 months off the scene.
 

keenas

Stan Wickham (3)
Strange post Keenas after 8 months off the scene.

yeah ok. Don't really want to get caught up up in the selection process drama as anyone who has played first footy would realize the selection is dependent on the the personal choices and opinions of the selectors and there can be varying degrees from each individual. Love the GPS footy comp don't agree with the format having said that I think we are losing ground to the others ! Cheers all
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Not a problem,SM,as it was I thought choosing Trinity would be a poor choice, in terms of opposition for some of the New A Teams. 14As 91-0 win in the full trial some weeks ago teaches neither New or Trinity teams about Rugby. It would be more benefical to play Joeys, Kings or View in A team trials. Equally, these schools would find New a highly competitive opponents. Only, our improving 15As would be perceived as a very beatable side and even then, I would rule out a surprise upset against these strong sides.

The trials against Trinity doubled as the rugby section of the AJ Rae Shield.

New were to play games against a touring team yesterday (in opens and possibly 16s?), I've been away so I don't know what actually happened.
 

Jim Belshaw

Bob Loudon (25)
Joeys are in Coffs Harbour on their annual training camp this week.
They take a squad of 40 players including the recent Schoolboy rep players
(poor buggers don't get much of a break)
They train but do not play any other schools. In the past they have had training runs against local colts teams.
While there they may try the legendary K'Pane Artisan Bakery. Best pies in town.

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Almost as good as the Armidale pies!
 

Up the Guts

Steve Williams (59)
A little off topic but I see where Tom Wright (Joeys 2015) cracked the starting side for Manly today. With Cameron Murray (Newignton 2015) debuting for Souths last year quite a bit of talent went to League from the 2015 year (I think Murray had a strong league background though?). Hopefully this year’s talent stays in Union. I would add that the growing popularity of 7s seems to be attracting a lot of bright schoolboy prospects (McTaggert, Reily, Pietsch etc.) and seems to be helping to bridge the gap between schoolboy and professional rugby.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Fixtures for this week:

Riverview v Scots at Lane Cove

Kings v Shore at North Parramatta

Joeys v Newington at Hunters Hill

Scots by 20

Kings by 50

Joeys by 30

3rd XV games

High v Scots at Centennial Park

Shore v Grammar at Northbridge

Kings v Riverview at North Parramatta

Joeys v Armidale at Hunters Hill

Judging by results from the 1st 2 rounds

Scots to win confortably

Grammar by 10

Riverview and Kings hard to judge - Riverview on results, but they are split from the rest of the school while Kings are at home with all other teams

Joeys by a lot over TAS
 

Wristman

Alfred Walker (16)
Fixtures for this week:

Riverview v Scots at Lane Cove

Kings v Shore at North Parramatta

Joeys v Newington at Hunters Hill

Scots by 20

Kings by 50

Joeys by 30

3rd XV games

High v Scots at Centennial Park

Shore v Grammar at Northbridge

Kings v Riverview at North Parramatta

Joeys v Armidale at Hunters Hill

Judging by results from the 1st 2 rounds

Scots to win confortably

Grammar by 10

Riverview and Kings hard to judge - Riverview on results, but they are split from the rest of the school while Kings are at home with all other teams

Joeys by a lot over TAS


Very hard to argue with any of those predictions Quickhands.
I even agree on the margins.
We'll be wrong though.....always an upset somewhere along the track!
 

Garry Owens

Alan Cameron (40)
Hello AAGPS Community

Can anyone tell me from when to when your season runs and how it’s structured ?

IE : Do you only play ISA teams and CAS teams in trials ?

Are there bye rounds in what comprises your competition rounds ?

Would be grateful for explanations

Thanks
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Hello AAGPS Community

Can anyone tell me from when to when your season runs and how it’s structured ?

IE : Do you only play ISA teams and CAS teams in trials ?

Are there bye rounds in what comprises your competition rounds ?

Would be grateful for explanations

Thanks

For 2017 and 2018, the season runs broadly as follows:

1st XV and 2nd XV - 6 teams Shore, Newington, Scots, Kings, Joeys and Riverview. They play each other once for the premiership, prior to which they played about 8 weeks of trials against a variety of schools (some GPS, some CAS and some ISA)

3rd XV - 8 teams, Grammar, TAS, High, Shore, Scots, Kings, Joeys and Riverview. They play each other once for the premiership, prior to which they play a similar trial season.

Prior to 2017 the 1sts and 2nds premierships were played over 2 rounds with fewer trials.

There haven't been any byes since Grammar dropped out of the 1sts/2nds competition after 2012. High last played 1sts in 2007. The bye disappeared from the 3rds competiton in 2017 when Newington ceased to compete (for some bizarre reasons Newington 3rds play everone else's 4ths)

Grammar and High each withdrew from the 1sts/2nds competitions because of changing enrolment demographics meant that it was unsafe for them to continue at that level. I'm a a loss to explain why Newington aren't in the 3rds.
 

Garry Owens

Alan Cameron (40)
Thanks Quick Hands

Do games still get played against The Armidale School here and there ? Where does that usually fit in ?

Two final questions ( and for others who may wish to wade in )

1. Who would be regarded as the Top 3 First XV Teams across all associations this year ?

2. Who would project to be amongst the Top 3 First XV Teams across all associations next year ?
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Thanks Quick Hands

Do games still get played against The Armidale School here and there ? Where does that usually fit in ?

Two final questions ( and for others who may wish to wade in )

1. Who would be regarded as the Top 3 First XV Teams across all associations this year ?

2. Who would project to be amongst the Top 3 First XV Teams across all associations next year ?

Not 100% sure about TAS. Possibly Grammar and High play TAS in Armidale in alternate years, but the rest of the TAS games are in Sydney every year (since 2017)
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
For 2017 and 2018, the season runs broadly as follows:

1st XV and 2nd XV - 6 teams Shore, Newington, Scots, Kings, Joeys and Riverview. They play each other once for the premiership, prior to which they played about 8 weeks of trials against a variety of schools (some GPS, some CAS and some ISA)

3rd XV - 8 teams, Grammar, TAS, High, Shore, Scots, Kings, Joeys and Riverview. They play each other once for the premiership, prior to which they play a similar trial season.

Prior to 2017 the 1sts and 2nds premierships were played over 2 rounds with fewer trials.

There have been any byes since Grammar dropped out of the 1sts/2nds competition in after 2012. HIgh last played 1sts in 2007. The bye disappeared from the 3rds competiton in 2017 when Newington ceased to compete (for some bizarre reasons Newington 3rds play everone else's 4ths)

Grammar and High each withdrew from the 1sts/2nds competitions because of changing enrolment demographics meant that it was unsafe for them to continue at that level. I'm a a loss to explain why Newington aren't in the 3rds.

Hello Quick Hands, I believe its a perception amongst the other 5 Schools is that Newington lacks depth and therefore competitiveness in the open age group. With only 6-7 teams this belief, is reinforced by a small boarding population. The reality is outside the GPS and against any other school, other than Knox, Newington would dominate that school in the open division. Its only in the last decade that Newington has become a force in GPS Rugby. However, some believe that this is a passing phase and the status quo will be reestablished. Hence, the belief to exclude New from the thirds competition. The current performance, by our firsts only reinforces this perception. Also, we have a very high waste rate, losing a team each year from each age division as they get older.

However, as we have mentioned Rugby at New is going forward, be it slowly,with both the quality and quantity of teams increasing. If New can get 8 or 9 teams in the opens for the coming years, we will not behaving this discussion. But we do need to find more ovals for training, retain players below the A teams and increase boarding numbers and accommodation. Only, then will the other schools take our 3RD'S as serious contenders in the 3rd XV competition.

May I suggest that the Concordia building site be, considered as a boarding house specialising in senior boarding for years 11-12. The purchase of the Cyprus Club just up road, from the college could be a further addition to the school's assets as a potential boarding house as well. All this means money spend and the school may have considerations that receive greater priority, such as more classrooms and more teachers to reduce class sizes. But, for me as an Old Boy the establishment of new boarding houses, brings the educational benefit of reduced travelling time and the opportunity for greater study. Expert subject Tutors could be employed to enhance the learning environment.

And off course there is always soccer to contend with. Only, time will tell.
 

Hasbeen

Bob Loudon (25)
Fixtures for this week:

Riverview v Scots at Lane Cove

Kings v Shore at North Parramatta

Joeys v Newington at Hunters Hill

Scots by 20

Kings by 50

Joeys by 30

3rd XV games

High v Scots at Centennial Park

Shore v Grammar at Northbridge

Kings v Riverview at North Parramatta

Joeys v Armidale at Hunters Hill

Judging by results from the 1st 2 rounds

Scots to win confortably

Grammar by 10

Riverview and Kings hard to judge - Riverview on results, but they are split from the rest of the school while Kings are at home with all other teams

Joeys by a lot over TAS

I think Scots will find View a little harder than expected. I dont believe there will be a 20 point gap.
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
I think Scots will find View a little harder than expected. I dont believe there will be a 20 point gap.

I think View are a real chance ... particularly with the home ground advantage...

so across all comps (CAS/GPS/ISA) ... I think this is match of the schoolboy rounds.

Now this is not knowing anything re injuries ... I think I recall hearing Savala (10) was injured and didn't play in the Nationals final ... NSW 1 v NSW 2

so if as I suspect Scots is slightly understrength .. this could be a real test for Scots title aspirations
 

Rugby Season

Stan Wickham (3)
I think View are a real chance . particularly with the home ground advantage.

so across all comps (CAS/GPS/ISA) . I think this is match of the schoolboy rounds.

Now this is not knowing anything re injuries . I think I recall hearing Savala (10) was injured and didn't play in the Nationals final . NSW 1 v NSW 2

so if as I suspect Scots is slightly understrength .. this could be a real test for Scots title aspirations

View are up for this don't worry about that. With the confidence of 3 reps selected, each game from here is a grand final if they are to win the comp. In particular Bell and Duitallis are without peer in the GPS, are all class and the side's win against Barker was no fluke even though only a trial.

Should be a cracker.
 

Rich_E

Ron Walden (29)
Hello AAGPS Community

Can anyone tell me from when to when your season runs and how it’s structured ?

IE : Do you only play ISA teams and CAS teams in trials ?

Are there bye rounds in what comprises your competition rounds ?

Would be grateful for explanations

Thanks

Hi GO.

This article has some background info on recent and current comp structures in AAGPS, CAS and ISA associations. Cheers.

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/2018-changes-sydney-schools-rugby-fixtures/
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Joker

Greg Davis (50)
The winter holidays have come and gone, the soccer oval at Riverview once again turns back to the round ball game after the abuse from the National championships and the ovens across Sydney once again get a hold of their recipes and see what tweaking is required for the remaining rounds ahead.

Riverview v Scots at Lane Cove
The recent championships showed again the quality of the individual Scots product. Many have found over the past six seasons, the Scots imported ingredients from the science labs of Sochi very hard to replicate in their local kitchens. There is though an ingredient not often found within the Bellevue pastries. I speak of resilience. No one can deny that the Bellevue Belyash Pie is an incredible experience, it is though when faced with a contest in another playground that Scots does falter at times. In the past we have seen the Imperial Army struggle away from home but somehow muddle their way through. While playing at the Death Star (Scots Main) gives them confidence knowing that their secret special half-time milkshakes will help, Scots do not always travel well to other star systems were ready access to the sports lab is limited. This weekend they face the brave blue and white rebels of Lane Cove. Inspired by playing in the Dagobah swamp bowl View may create doubt in the usual sure footed Scots storm troopers. Riverview, to be honest, like nothing more than making doubters eat their short crust and hence this weekend they expect the Curry Lamb Pot Pie from The Cakeman bakery could create such a situation. Will the Dark Empire prevail? I am calling this a close one with the Lane Cove rebel alliance squeaking one out. Riverview by one ewok.

Scots boys line up to welcome their team to the field.

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Kings v Shore at North Parramatta
The match is often seen as a country reunion. Many of these lads hail from familiar barren farming lands. Often from inside the scrum can be heard talk about lamb prices, who is marrying their sister and only if it would rain. This weekend though will no such rural discussion niceties as both teams will be attacking this game like a fox onto a wounded lamb. Kings will expect that their tried and true Saveur Curry Lamb Pot Pie will continue to prevail over the drought effected Shoremen. Many continue to write off the lads from Northbridge as a paddock blown dry from the drought which has lasted now for many seasons. Has the best Shore got to offer been lost to the tumbleweed of time? While the Kings boys may see this game as a fait accompli, the recent past has shown that Shore look at this game as their chance to restore their pride. Recent school holidays allowed for a productive rugby camp for the Shore boys with a solid win against a cocky Cranbrook (really...cocky) and will come into the game with some renewed confidence. I hope this is close one and really want Shore to shake the dust of past defeats from the boots. Lets hope the Shore Steak and Stilton Pie works a treat. Kings by a dozen merino.

Tumbleweeds gathering on the Shore ovals

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Joeys v Newington at Hunters Hill
It has been recently eluded to that not all is well within the kitchen at Joeys. The past few seasons have been disappointing as the head chef refuses to listen to his patrons on what is required for a winning recipe. While the sous-chef at Hunters Hill has had success with his hard working cattle dogs, the spring lambs of the back line have not always been given the space and confidence to show what skill they have. Too often the opposition know the Joeys game plan better than they do. Recently rumors have come from the hallowed turf of Joeys number 1 that some of the lambs have started to make their dissatisfaction known. Joeys still produce good Steak and Kidney pies but these are unoriginal and out dated. The head chef refuses to face the fact that old techniques are spoiling his final product. In the meantime the Tuʻi empire of the inner west continues to slowly sink due to the round ball game gathering players to their code. Not fielding a 3rd XV in the 3rd XV competition is a sign that all is not well. I trace the start of this rot back to 2013 when there was too much of a reliance on League ingredients and Pacific pork. The mood within the kitchen soured the school community as those who were choosing between rugby and football chose the later as the only sport where you could be rewarded for your loyalty and hard work. Too many rugby boys turned their backs on rugby as no matter what they did and how hard they worked, the imported ingredients would always take their place. It has become poisonous to the Newington Cajun Pork and Beef Cheese pie. Joeys by a dozen lamb chops.

Joeys forwards lining up

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Joker

Greg Davis (50)
The beautiful thing about sport is that we will know the result by 5pm Saturday.

Scots are not known for their sharing of scorelines quickly. If only some schools would have followed the Joeys example of a designated rugby twitter account. Priceless for those who cannot be at the game. Tis a shame that schools do not stream matches. The Dark Empire used to once as part of their global domination campaign.
 
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