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NSW AAGPS 2025

Jakeburner65

Stan Wickham (3)
Can we see if we can fill in the various B teams from last weekend?
13 B

SJC12Shore07
TKSTSC
NCSIC


14B

SJC33Shore05
TKSTSC
NCSIC


15B

SJC40Shore00
TKSTSC
NCSIC


16B

SJC15Shore00
TKSTSC
NCSIC

Sorry, I don't think it's going to be that easy.

For example, on the weekend, Riverview 16Bs played Grammar 16A and the 16Cs played New 16B. I don't have exact scores, but both won by large margins. Similar arrangements in the other junior grades.

For reference, the View 16As played New and won by 49-5, 16Ds played New 16Cs and won 36-5, and View 15Gs played the New 15Cs and had a win, I believe.
 

BleedBlueWhite

Frank Row (1)
Yes,

I have heard from sources at Scots that Heinz Le-Moto has suffered a season ending injury, some issue with his knee, with this discovery it will be interesting to see what happens in the front row Potentially Phil Cooney moving up to front row and Jock Sides moving to N.O. 8

HH
Saw him play Saturday….. huge talent….. what a loss
 

wantman

Frank Row (1)
Thank you for these scores. They provide a cross check for the relative strengths of TAS and High playing a Sydney school.

In a very early match against Kinross TAS suffered some heavy defeats. Firsts Kinross 43-12, Seconds Kinross 66-0, under `16s a Kinross victory score not known, First girls Kinross 19-0. The presence of girls rugby is having some interesting effects. Most TAS games against coed schools now included both genders. With these results I wondered about the strength of TAS this year.

Against High in what was in fact the first round of the GPS thirds comp, I know that the full comp hasn't started yet, TAS won 22-3 placing TAS as the temporary comp leader on points! While High wasn't disgraced, I thought that TAS was significantly the better team. TAS actually won all the rugby matches. Of these I watched the 16s, thirds, seconds and firsts. I wasn't impresses by the 16s on either side, although TAS won well. It was nice to see the thirds who, while a smaller and younger team, was pretty smart. I have always thought of the thirds as a Cinderella team struggling to get matches. TAS once had three open teams below the top two, but it's hard to attract and motivate if you don't have anyone to play. The TAS seconds, my old team, were much better than I expected, outclassing High. Bottom line is that TAS has some depth this year.

Overall, High still just won the long-running Harris and Hanlon cup across a number of sports. My congratulations. Interestingly, TAS won the open soccer which made me wonder how TAS might go in the GPS competition.

Thinking about this post led me to look at TAS sport more broadly. There has been a lot of rugby activity, far more than I had realised, but there is more competition from other sports offering more competitive options. Rugby is holding its own for the moment in part because TAS provides so much infrastructure. I might write something on all this because reading the G&G posts makes me feel that I live in very different sporting world.
While I appreciate the thoughtful analysis of TAS's rugby performance and accept that it is far superior to the High rugby program, it is important to acknowledge a broader context when evaluating both TAS and High’s overall sporting strength to which I will provide. High is historically known to not bring its strongest sides in many sports to the Harris and Hannon Cup outside of Rugby (notoriously the weakest sport of high in recent history)—especially in early-season or non-premiership fixtures such as those in tennis, volleyball, basketball, or football, attributed to 2 main reasons:

1. There are far more paramount games which take place simultaneously to the cup
2. They are too busy studying or cannot be bothered to trek it up 7 hours to Armidale

Though closely contested each year, this is one of the biggest misconceptions of the annual rivalry between TAS and High: The fact SBHS sport heavily weakened sides it is unfeasible to be taken as an indicative benchmark of the ability of TAS to compete with the wider range of AAGPS schools.

As an illustrative reference for your consideration: None of the first grade players of volleyball, tennis or football and only a handful of basketballers (Henry Lau never attended or it would be over for TAS) attended the 2 day trip. Most notably I overheard that Sydney Boys had sent their mighty 4th grade football side up (it happens every year) led by captains Ryan Kirkland and Clinton Chau to face the 1st grade TAS side coming narrowly close to victory.

So to answer your mental quandary: this is spell-bindingly tight game may even prove the limitations of the TAS strength of side. If a fourth-grade High side—devoid of its top-tier athletes like DDD, Aiden Mcmanus and newly appointed GPS combined captain Liam Nottage—can push TAS’s premier team to the brink, it suggests not parity with stronger GPS programs, but a significant gap. When full-strength squads are fielded, particularly in the premiership season, TAS would likely struggle to remain competitive across several codes.

Whilst, Armidale rugby may seemingly always best that of High (although High have made significant improvements over the past few years, reflected in both the narrowing margin of score and performance), the wider range of sports High as I have stated above should inherently be far superior, even winning some games with weakened sides.

Although, the Harris and Hannon Cup, continues to be an enjoyable experience for the High boy's who are not often granted such entertaining sporting trips like their private school counterparts in the AAGPS who are blessed with the opportunity to play in Europe, the experience endures as one of great memories thanks to the hospitality of the TAS school rather than an effective measure of TAS's sporting prowess to other AAGPS schools.
 

Joker

Moderator
Staff member
No idea what was in the water today but Mods have been dealing with spam all day.
There has been so much that @cyclopath locked CAS thread.

Make no mistake Cyclopath (who wields a much bigger hammer than me) is out and about ready to go.
Once more, we are very fortunate that the AAGPS students participating here are predominately level headed young men.
I implore you all to keep using the report button for posts that fail to measure up.

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tks_2022OB

Frank Row (1)
BIG NEWS FROM NEWINGTON !

After a slippery deck at training today for the New Boys (their field is in shambles), Centre Braithe Sloane went down with a supposedly syndesmosis injury which caused him to be rushed to emergency. With this information it looks as though the NC backline is going down like flies. First Makisini getting dropped to 2s and now Sloane going down. Does this call for a call up for Makasini potentially playing 13 and Kden Carter Back on the wing. Interesting to see the line up they play with at Hunters Hill. Thoughts on the potential backline this weekend for NC?

TKS 22
 

Footy head

Ted Fahey (11)
BIG NEWS FROM NEWINGTON !

After a slippery deck at training today for the New Boys (their field is in shambles), Centre Braithe Sloane went down with a supposedly syndesmosis injury which caused him to be rushed to emergency. With this information it looks as though the NC backline is going down like flies. First Makisini getting dropped to 2s and now Sloane going down. Does this call for a call up for Makasini potentially playing 13 and Kden Carter Back on the wing. Interesting to see the line up they play with at Hunters Hill. Thoughts on the potential backline this weekend for NC?

TKS 22
Wasn't rushed off to hospital and was able to walk off the ground but is uncertain for this weekend, off to get scans now. Finger crossed although Makasini not a bad replacement if unavailable.

-Footyhead
 

For Rucksake

Frank Row (1)
It will be exciting to watch Wendt (E) play this week. Only making the one trial game appearance in 2024 then tearing his ACL, he was almost a lock to play 1st XV in 2024. He was brilliant in restricted minutes for the 2nd XV last week and I'm sure he will carry this form over.
Well said.

He played particularly well under the high ball as well, with some successful contests.

Wendt (E) also showed some good carries in his small minutes he had in the 2XV.

Excited to see this success carried over against Scots this Saturday.
 

Savage_Eddie915

Frank Row (1)
Yes,

I have heard from sources at Scots that Heinz Le-Moto has suffered a season ending injury, some issue with his knee, with this discovery it will be interesting to see what happens in the front row Potentially Phil Cooney moving up to front row and Jock Sides moving to N.O. 8

HH
I haven't heard anything about a Heinz Le-Moto injury, Phil Cooney is some talent, and I would like to see him get a shot in ones he can make an impact no matter where you play him and just makes things happen when he's on the ball.
 

twister29

Allen Oxlade (6)
Yes,

I have heard from sources at Scots that Heinz Le-Moto has suffered a season ending injury, some issue with his knee, with this discovery it will be interesting to see what happens in the front row Potentially Phil Cooney moving up to front row and Jock Sides moving to N.O. 8

HH
That’s good for Shore, but a massive loss for Scots and I am disappointed not to see him play he is such a talent.
I wonder if this will affect his post school career. Does he have anything lined up?
 

The President

Chris McKivat (8)
That’s good for Shore, but a massive loss for Scots and I am disappointed not to see him play he is such a talent.
I wonder if this will affect his post school career. Does he have anything lined up?
I believe he was signed with the Penrith Panthers and was playing for their Harold Matthew’s side in 2024, but I’m not sure if he is still contracted with the club.
 
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PROPaganda

Sydney Middleton (9)
I believe he was signed with the Penrith Panthers Harold Matthew’s side, but I’m not sure if he is still contracted.
Well since his Harold Matts season finished in March 2024, I would hope he isn't still signed with that team. However, he has recently played a season of SG ball with Penrith but I believe he is not secured for the future. While both NRL and Rugby AU are fighting for his signature, it appears that he will sign with the 'Stade Toulousain' French rugby side. This would be disappointing for us Australian fans of both Rugby League and Union but best of luck to Heinz which whatever path he chooses.
 

PickandDriveThru80

Stan Wickham (3)
Well since his Harold Matts season finished in March 2024, I would hope he isn't still signed with that team. However, he has recently played a season of SG ball with Penrith but I believe he is not secured for the future. While both NRL and Rugby AU are fighting for his signature, it appears that he will sign with the 'Stade Toulousain' French rugby side. This would be disappointing for us Australian fans of both Rugby League and Union but best of luck to Heinz which whatever path he chooses.
While disappointing for AU fans now, at least he is still playing the sport we all love (rugby), this would make the chances of him coming back to super rugby and/or the Wallabies much higher than if he was signed in the NRL somewhere in my opinion.
 

BigScrum21

Frank Row (1)
Yes,

I have heard from sources at Scots that Heinz Le-Moto has suffered a season ending injury, some issue with his knee, with this discovery it will be interesting to see what happens in the front row Potentially Phil Cooney moving up to front row and Jock Sides moving to N.O. 8

HH
Looks like the casualty ward for scots is really ramping up. How are the players getting promoted to the front row shaping up to play against Shore this weekend @Harry Head

- bs21
 
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