QLD GPS Rugby 2014

[Refabit]

Finally a tipping round where the results aren't a foregone conclusion.
Ok there have been some close games but the favourite's come out on top always. Boring.
And imagine having the title deciding game (ACGS v NC) in Round 4? Who schedules that? I'll back The Rugby Program (Churchie) to prove its money well spent and beat the hordes by 7.
And I cant back BGS to win the spoon and tip them to beat ... anyone really. So Toowoomba by 12. Nice to see one of these teams breaking the goose egg as it might be the only season points they get.
This next one is a really key battle in the context of the season - as to who will finish 4th overall. BBC to buck recent history and get up by 10 over BSHS in a result seemingly supported by over half the contributors to this thread.
Terrace got run over by a bus in their last game but have had a week off to freshen up. I'll go for the Lilliputians to beat the giants - GT by 10.

 

[Dark Shark]

Digby, there is plenty of talent in these 2 sides. There are actually 5 in the NC side in Broncos program, 1 of these boys are with cowboys as well and BBC have 3 boys that I know of. Should be a great game.

Based on story in today's CM and Foxsports (see earlier post #1844 link) where it says the NRL has a ban on player managers and NRL clubs signing kids until they are 15, how are all these 14 year olds tied to professional RL clubs?

 

[Nightmare]

Fair enough, I know guys associated with coaching schoolboy rep league teams and believe it or not but the biggest representation from scouts at carnivals are GPS schools. I know the favs for this years 1st XV were training pretty hard late last year for this year but I suppose others were as well. I dare say like most rep teams in junior footy players are usually chosen on previous years displays, obviously there are standouts but largely selected prior to trials. Not totally up on rugby after school Im sure plenty on here could comment but its just colts I thought ??? Lets face it how many 18-19 yr old are running around in Super 15...... Not too many at a guess, so your probably right. Union might have to adopt a similar comp like the NYC for the young development????

 

[tooms]

Based on story in today's CM and Foxsports (see earlier post #1844 link) where it says the NRL has a ban on player managers and NRL clubs signing kids until they are 15, how are all these 14 year olds tied to professional RL clubs?

I said it earlier in the forum, and I'll say it again.

Most of the time when someone tells you a kid is on a "scholarship" or is on "contract" the reality of it is quite different to the way it sounds.

 

[Nightmare]

Their not signed mate. They put them on scholarships and into development squads, flick them a few shirts,bags,pay for schooling, "Elite training sessions" and hope 1 out of 50 is the next Benji Marshall.

 

[tooms]

Fair enough, I know guys associated with coaching schoolboy rep league teams and believe it or not but the biggest representation from scouts at carnivals are GPS schools. I know the favs for this years 1st XV were training pretty hard late last year for this year but I suppose others were as well. I dare say like most rep teams in junior footy players are usually chosen on previous years displays, obviously there are standouts but largely selected prior to trials. Not totally up on rugby after school Im sure plenty on here could comment but its just colts I thought ??? Lets face it how many 18-19 yr old are running around in Super 15.. Not too many at a guess, so your probably right. Union might have to adopt a similar comp like the NYC for the young development????

The Brumbies have a great setup. I know To'omua was picked up right out of school, supported, developed, and now look at him!

For more than just the very few special players like the Beale's and Cooper's of the world however there just isn't enough demand to justify the costs.

The NRC might change this and result in better youth development programs.

 

[rugbyhead01]

Not completely true Nightmare. I know of more than a few boys have "signed" contracts while being 14/15/16. These are more than just t-shirt deals and involve the receipt of money.

 

[Digby]

Qld rugby needs IGS & BSHS to be strong.I see they both only have 10 teams this weekend-but both are doing well at basketball & soccer.Is that the problem.?
In my day BSHS had d&e teams that were bloody good(terrifying)

 

[Jamo]

In addition to Realdeals response I just checked IGS stats and see that they have won all games in u12a, u13a, u14a, and all but one u15a, losing by one point to TSS. u16a not travelling well. If the coaching there is so bad, why are they winning the majority of their A group matches. I agree it seems Jamo has a beef with IGS and doesn't offer a balanced view. His comments are very disrespectful to a group of people who give up their time to coach and mentor young men.

 

[Nightmare]

Agree Rugbyhead and I know 9 currently playing in the GPS comp that have contracts. I think you will find even these guys didn't sign contracts before turning 15. As a whole the vest majority only have scholarships and the like as I stated. The big thing these days is to get a 3 year contract for NYC and have the club pay uni fees as that doesn't form part of the salary cap. Worse case scenario & football doesn't work out they have 3 out of 4 yrs uni paid.

 

[bear]

Qld rugby needs IGS & BSHS to be strong.I see they both only have 10 teams this weekend-but both are doing well at basketball & soccer.Is that the problem.?
In my day BSHS had d&e teams that were bloody good(terrifying)

The depth is a worry. Although a bit like IGS the teams seem to be going pretty good.
U13 A's - undefeated. Should be a great game this week-end against BBC.
U13 B's are also doing well - They beat TGS 87 nil, BGS 51 nil.
U 13 C's have been very competitive.
I believe that the 14's A's are the only undefeated team in that comp.
And i'm pretty sure the 15 A's are at the top as well (with a few other teams).

So the strength is there- just not the depth. Which again - is a concern.

 

[tooms]

I believe that the 14's A's are the only undefeated team in that comp.

Surely the much lauded NC U14A side are undefeated too? In fact after 3 rounds there's a few schools undefeated.

Am I right that IGS U14A has a fair whack of Sunnybank playing for them?

 

[bear]

Sorry, my mistake. I didn't take into account that Nudgee had the bye in round one.

 

[SamoanNo8]

It's been an issue ever since you left mate, BGS just haven't been able to find someone who could replicate anything Greene could produce. Sly at 10 was a nice idea, but like you said didn't have the skills to execute. He's always played his best footy at 15 with a bit of extra time, so he'll hold down the fort just fine at the back.

I've never met Jacob Dallas, but from all accounts he seems a talent. He had a trial by fire coming on against Nudgee, 60 points down on Ross Oval though, and he hasn't stuck out as an underperformer.

I believe a kid named Max Buckley (not sold on the name, Max might have been his elder brother) is playing 10 for the Bridge. I didn't pay too close attention to the match, but they did okay to win 4 tries to 1. He must be in line somewhere, probably needs just one more injury.

Jacob Dallas, although small, is a talented flyhalf and is the man that the BGS First XV needs to lead to backline for the rest of the season. Good ball, runs straight and engages the line before distributing, the backline attacked in a straighter fashion under Dallas vs BSHS. Tom Sly, no doubt a talented player, needs to be unleashed at fullback for BGS to get the best out of him. Regards to Buckley, Nick is his first name and is playing Bridge atm.

 

[SamoanNo8]

Qld rugby needs IGS & BSHS to be strong.I see they both only have 10 teams this weekend-but both are doing well at basketball & soccer.Is that the problem.?
In my day BSHS had d&e teams that were bloody good(terrifying)

Are you saying that the success of QLD rugby is dependent on the success/strength of IGS and BSHS?...

 

[bluewhiteblue]

Went to the nudgee vs bbc game on the weekend and yet another win for nudgee. What I want to try and understand is what are the bbc coaches thinking spending all this money on a dream team without a specialist fly half. Absolutely clueless. Most important position on the pitch. All I saw was catching in the chest leading to charge downs, drop balls/ thumbling. Terrible kicking game. And not giving his 12 a chance at all, little own the outside backs. Oh well on to bigger fish.

 

[Benchwarmer]

Have seen a few IGS games this season and the A teams have notable players from 12A up........ I guess the shortfall will come later when depth becomes an issue.....pretty sure 7 or so U12 met west reps this year with more in the U15 met west squad?

 

[Digby]

Went to the nudgee vs bbc game on the weekend and yet another win for nudgee. What I want to try and understand is what are the bbc coaches thinking spending all this money on a dream team without a specialist fly half. Absolutely clueless. Most important position on the pitch. All I saw was catching in the chest leading to charge downs, drop balls/ thumbling. Terrible kicking game. And not giving his 12 a chance at all, little own the outside backs. Oh well on to bigger fish.

Absolutely correct for 3rd week in a row

 

[Digby]

Are you saying that the success of QLD rugby is dependent on the success/strength of IGS and BSHS?.

Of course not : but when two great rugby schools can only field A and B teams it is a concern for all rugby people.the stronger the GPS system the stronger the Reds.

 

[Benchwarmer]

Regarding BSHS.......are they only fielding A & B team's?.....from what I have read the teams to date throughout all age groups have performed fairly well.....if you consider the incumbent will be there for the long-haul........with new lads joining ranks down the track I reckon there may not be great cause for concern for SH......